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06-21-2008, 02:52 PM
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Just spent two hours talking with a PAW minister
Cool, I drive by a PAW church frequently as I take care of business and I always wanted to stop and talk with them, today it happened.
They are having a special youth service today and I need someone to come into our elderly facility for bible studies, music and they are perfect.
At any rate, I spent two hours talking about stuff. No wonder the UPC doesn't have any inkling of a desire to get involved or even acknowledge them.
I will be in service with them tomorrow morning BTW...
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06-21-2008, 02:59 PM
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Re: Just spent two hours talking with a PAW minist
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No wonder the UPC doesn't have any inkling of a desire to get involved or even acknowledge them
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What do you mean?
Are they whacko's?
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06-21-2008, 03:01 PM
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Re: Just spent two hours talking with a PAW minist
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Originally Posted by Carpenter
Cool, I drive by a PAW church frequently as I take care of business and I always wanted to stop and talk with them, today it happened.
They are having a special youth service today and I need someone to come into our elderly facility for bible studies, music and they are perfect.
At any rate, I spent two hours talking about stuff. No wonder the UPC doesn't have any inkling of a desire to get involved or even acknowledge them.
I will be in service with them tomorrow morning BTW...
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You don't explain why you think the UPC stays away from them....
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06-21-2008, 04:37 PM
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Re: Just spent two hours talking with a PAW minist
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You don't explain why you think the UPC stays away from them....
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Right. I think it's a puzzle...
at least I am puzzled.
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06-21-2008, 04:30 PM
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Re: Just spent two hours talking with a PAW minist
What is PAW?
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06-21-2008, 04:39 PM
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Re: Just spent two hours talking with a PAW minist
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What is PAW?
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your avatar's foot?
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I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
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06-21-2008, 05:17 PM
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Re: Just spent two hours talking with a PAW minist
From Wikpedia... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penteco...s_of_the_World
Really it has everything you wanted to know.
The Pentecostal Assemblies of The World, Inc. (PAW) is the oldest Oneness Pentecostal organization in existence, and was founded in 1906, formally organized in 1912 as adherents of trinitarian beliefs, and in 1916 re-organized as a Oneness Pentecostal organization...
As I was speaking with this gentlemen, meeting some very fine folks going in and out of the church, I realized they do not embrace, nor do they believe they are biblical, the social and cultural standards the UPC embraces.
This man told me the PAW believes the doctrine, but that all the trappings of legalism and mandated holiness was pretty much sin.
They believe the exact same thing as the UPC does in terms of baptism, speaking in tongues and salvation, and I told him this, most UPC and/or ultraconservative apostolic individual would say your women are not saved.
He really liked that one. He said y'all need to be delivered from that.
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06-21-2008, 05:31 PM
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Re: Just spent two hours talking with a PAW minist
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.......He said y'all need to be delivered from that.

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Maybe one day. Just maybe!
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06-21-2008, 05:34 PM
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Re: Just spent two hours talking with a PAW minist
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Maybe one day. Just maybe! 
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Amen
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06-21-2008, 06:25 PM
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Re: Just spent two hours talking with a PAW minist
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Originally Posted by Carpenter
From Wikpedia... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penteco...s_of_the_World
Really it has everything you wanted to know.
The Pentecostal Assemblies of The World, Inc. (PAW) is the oldest Oneness Pentecostal organization in existence, and was founded in 1906, formally organized in 1912 as adherents of trinitarian beliefs, and in 1916 re-organized as a Oneness Pentecostal organization...
As I was speaking with this gentlemen, meeting some very fine folks going in and out of the church, I realized they do not embrace, nor do they believe they are biblical, the social and cultural standards the UPC embraces.
This man told me the PAW believes the doctrine, but that all the trappings of legalism and mandated holiness was pretty much sin.
They believe the exact same thing as the UPC does in terms of baptism, speaking in tongues and salvation, and I told him this, most UPC and/or ultraconservative apostolic individual would say your women are not saved.
He really liked that one. He said y'all need to be delivered from that.

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Many PAWs still hold a lot of standards other than the jewelry and hair one. The PAW women I see wear cheap jewelry, not gaudy stuff and they cut their hair, but many have no makeup and wear dresses.
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