Barack vows to disarm America

How anyone can vote for this man....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7o84PE871BE

[Michael The Disciple]

Hey The Russians, Chinese, and Muslims should really like him!

[CC1]

Well he does say he is about "change". I just think most American don't have a clue at to what "change" he is going to bring about or they are too stupid or out of touch with current events in the world to care.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by CC1

Well he does say he is about "change". I just think most American don't have a clue at to what "change" he is going to bring about or they are too stupid or out of touch with current events in the world to care.

From one side of his mouth he talks about how great this country is and from the other side of his mouth he talks about changing the country.

[Praxeas]

WHy doesn't anyone point out when Obama says "I opposed THIS war from the beginning" he is speaking of the war WITH Iraq? That war is long over. We are in Nation building mode now and that requires internal police action. If we leave there now Iraq will crumble into total anarchy and war. In fact I believe if that did happen Iran would put it's hand in on a larger scale and then Saudi Arabia may end up taking counter measures. The price of oil then would be higher than anything you have yet seen

[chosenbyone]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Why doesn't anyone point out when Obama says "I opposed THIS war from the beginning" he is speaking of the war WITH Iraq? That war is long over. We are in Nation building mode now and that requires internal police action. If we leave there now Iraq will crumble into total anarchy and war. In fact I believe if that did happen Iran would put it's hand in on a larger scale and then Saudi Arabia may end up taking counter measures. The price of oil then would be higher than anything you have yet seen

The tragic consequences of our troops having to be involved in "nation building" (while our nation slips farther and farther into financial ruin) was that our attention and money has been shifted from capturing Osama Bin Laden (remember him) and the continued struggle in Afghanistan.

We have been losing ground and troops in Afghanistan because our resources have been primarily going toward Iraq where the majority of the public wants us to leave.

This "nation building" farce has cost our country around 10 billion dollars a month, which we have been primarily borrowing from China to fund. How much longer can our nation sustain this type of spending before collapse?

General Casey stated this week that the army needed at least five years to recover from the war in Iraq, which has lasted longer than both World Wars! But, we have McCain, Lieberman and Bush wanting to go to war with Iran with our troops stretched thin and not prepared! They estimate that Iran, if they had the materials (which they don't) to develop nuclear weapons, was at least five to six years away from having the capacity to develop a nuclear bomb! Yet, those who love war have been building a case of fear in order to justify more killing of innocent women and children.

Amazing!

[DanielR]

Originally Posted by chosenbyone

The tragic consequences of our troops having to be involved in "nation building" (while our nation slips farther and farther into financial ruin) was that our attention and money has been shifted from capturing Osama Bin Laden (remember him) and the continued struggle in Afghanistan.

We have been losing ground and troops in Afghanistan because our resources have been primarily going toward Iraq where the majority of the public wants us to leave.

This "nation building" farce has cost our country around 10 billion dollars a month, which we have been primarily borrowing from China to fund. How much longer can our nation sustain this type of spending before collapse?

General Casey stated this week that the army needed at least five years to recover from the war in Iraq, which has lasted longer than both World Wars! But, we have McCain, Lieberman and Bush wanting to go to war with Iran with our troops stretched thin and not prepared! They estimate that Iran, if they had the materials (which they don't) to develop nuclear weapons, was at least five to six years away from having the capacity to develop a nuclear bomb! Yet, those who love war have been building a case of fear in order to justify more killing of innocent women and children.

Amazing!

I thought I was pretty much up to date, but I don't recall McCain, Lieberman or Bush ever stating that they wanted to go to war with Iran. But rather explaining the need for the UN (as in everyone) to deal with Iran diplomaticly. At any rate, I don't think Isreal will give the U.S. the oppertunity to go to war with Iran. It looks to me that a repeat of Isreal bombing Iran nuclear facilities is in the making. But that's is just speculation.

(I am not a Republican, nor do I play one on T.V.)

Actually, by the standard of our military presence providing security like we are doing in Iraq, we are still involved in WWII and South Korea because we still have a significant military presence in Germany and Korea, and to a lesser degree Japan. The Iraq "war" was over some years ago, but the security that we are providing as a new nation emerges may take several decades. I don't like it any better than the next guy, but I think it's time to bring the boys home from Germany and Korea before we complain too much about Iraq. The cold war has been over since the 80's, why are we still there?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by chosenbyone

The tragic consequences of our troops having to be involved in "nation building" (while our nation slips farther and farther into financial ruin) was that our attention and money has been shifted from capturing Osama Bin Laden (remember him) and the continued struggle in Afghanistan.

We have been losing ground and troops in Afghanistan because our resources have been primarily going toward Iraq where the majority of the public wants us to leave.

This "nation building" farce has cost our country around 10 billion dollars a month, which we have been primarily borrowing from China to fund. How much longer can our nation sustain this type of spending before collapse?

General Casey stated this week that the army needed at least five years to recover from the war in Iraq, which has lasted longer than both World Wars! But, we have McCain, Lieberman and Bush wanting to go to war with Iran with our troops stretched thin and not prepared! They estimate that Iran, if they had the materials (which they don't) to develop nuclear weapons, was at least five to six years away from having the capacity to develop a nuclear bomb! Yet, those who love war have been building a case of fear in order to justify more killing of innocent women and children.

Amazing!

That is fine if that is the stated reason. Another farce is that we are in the same illegal war that Bush got us in....that is not what is happening.

Bush did not go into Iraq alone. He was backed by many Democrats and Republicans too. Not only that the Democrats that were on the same house committee that saw the same information Bush did and Colin Powell.

I would that we never had gone into Iraq. It was a financial and stratetic blunder IMO

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by chosenbyone

(while our nation slips farther and farther into financial ruin)

CB1,
Gallup polls are saying that 87% of Americans think the economy if getting worse. lol

The facts are:

With everything thrown at our economy - subprime housing collapse, subsequent credit crunch, skyrocketing oil prices and record fuel costs at the pump - it is still holding up much better than in other recessions.

During Jimmy Carter's Administration the unemployment was 7.5% and inflation was 14.4%.

The national jobless rate, today, is 5.5% and in some places between 4 and 5%. Inflation is at 4.2%.

Wall Street Economists are predicting 1 to 2% growth in the second quarter and 3% in the second half of the year.

Why? Because of the small businesses and flexible labor force, as well as, believing the current rebound and the heavy investments, made globally in recent years, will pay off.

57% to 41% are in favor of drilling.

We are not doing bad. The media wants the American people to think we are.

[Brother Price]

We really need a "Bullcorn Translator" for his speeches like this. Fortunately, I have one handy...

"I will diarm America and welcome the Middle Eastern terrorist groups as brothers in a goal to end freedom, democracy, and national sovereignty. I will degrage our military, and make us a third world country, so that I may be welcomed as what I truly am, a brother in Islam. I will work to disarm the citizen and the military, open the borders, and tax the fire out of those who dare to work, and promote a dependance upon the government."

Vote Baldwin '08!