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Old 03-20-2007, 05:00 PM
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Children of Lost Parents and Standards?

Suppose you are a Pastor and you have set standards for your church.
Now you have children coming to your church whose parents are lost.
Suppose these children want to sing in the youth choir or participate in Sunday School outings and events.
Do you demand that children from these enviroments comply with the church standards before they can participate in church activities?
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Old 03-20-2007, 05:03 PM
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I'd say that most conservative churches are rigid about the letter of the law and would demand compliance to participate. We have lost many an individual and families over similar issues.
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Sister Rhoni what about a situation where a DAD or MOM is in church but the other spouse isn't.A woman might have probelms making her children comply if her husband is lost and undermines her.
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Sister Rhoni what about a situation where a DAD or MOM is in church but the other spouse isn't.A woman might have probelms making her children comply if her husband is lost and undermines her.
I agree this is a possibility but very few of our conservative churches would grant such grace so as not to be accused of favoritism. This is why I love a balanced church who trusts the leadings of the spirit in individuals lifes to make changes necessary in modest dress.

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I don't know what my new pastor would do but in the past, everyone had to comply.

We had a youth six-flags outing and my former pastor made the girls that were visiting wear skirts to six flags. The visiting boys had to wear pants.
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Suppose you are a Pastor and you have set standards for your church.
Now you have children coming to your church whose parents and lost.
Suppose these children want to sing in the youth choir or participate in Sunday School outings and events.
Do you demand that children from these enviroments comply with the church standards before they can participate in church activities?

That is the problem. They burn these souls out by not have no flexability.
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Suppose you are a Pastor and you have set standards for your church.
Now you have children coming to your church whose parents and lost.
Suppose these children want to sing in the youth choir or participate in Sunday School outings and events.
Do you demand that children from these enviroments comply with the church standards before they can participate in church activities?
They could participate in Sunday School outing and such, but must abide by the standards to be on the platform.
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I am not sure any of us would know exactly what we were going to do until we were faced with those same circumstances.

I think alot of it would depend on the childs age. The other children who are complying might have a hard time understanding.

We once had a lady who attended our church. Knew the standards that the church held yet would allow her daughter to come to picnic functions in shorts or pants.

To me that is disrespectful because she herself knows what is taught and what the people believe. Kids have a hard time understanding it because they considered themselves as a member and yet they werent following what they heard taught

Big difference when you dont know what is taught and you do it or you know what is taughtand you just dont care and are gonna do what you want anyway
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I am not sure any of us would know exactly what we were going to do until we were faced with those same circumstances.

I think alot of it would depend on the childs age. The other children who are complying might have a hard time understanding.

We once had a lady who attended our church. Knew the standards that the church held yet would allow her daughter to come to picnic functions in shorts or pants.

To me that is disrespectful because she herself knows what is taught and what the people believe. Kids have a hard time understanding it because they considered themselves as a member and yet they werent following what they heard taught

Big difference when you dont know what is taught and you do it or you know what is taughtand you just dont care and are gonna do what you want anyway

This strikes a nerve with me.

We had a Bible school in the church basement. I wanted to go and had talked to my daughter and asked her to go with me. My daughter was in her late teens and decided she didn't want to wear skirts all the time. My take on it was that it wasn't and heaven or hell issue and that my relationship with my daughter was more important so I did not make a big deal of it. I carefully pick my battles and weigh issues.

I was really happy that my daughter was going to go to Bible school with me for many reasons not the least of which was that she was going to have the Word of God taught to her more in depth. There's nothing more powerful than the Spirit and the Word working together to make deep spiritual changes in a person's life. We went to Bible School and the pastor said that all women had to abide by the dress standard of no pants. My daughter wouldn't go back because of it. I was crushed.

I thought instilling the Word in a person's life was more important because that is a heaven or hell issue and a way to come to maturity in Christ. Dress standards are just not a way to mature someone in the Lord.
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This strikes a nerve with me.

We had a Bible school in the church basement. I wanted to go and had talked to my daughter and asked her to go with me. My daughter was in her late teens and decided she didn't want to wear skirts all the time. My take on it was that it wasn't and heaven or hell issue and that my relationship with my daughter was more important so I did not make a big deal of it. I carefully pick my battles and weigh issues.

I was really happy that my daughter was going to go to Bible school with me for many reasons not the least of which was that she was going to have the Word of God taught to her more in depth. There's nothing more powerful than the Spirit and the Word working together to make deep spiritual changes in a person's life. We went to Bible School and the pastor said that all women had to abide by the dress standard of no pants. My daughter wouldn't go back because of it. I was crushed.

I thought instilling the Word in a person's life was more important because that is a heaven or hell issue and a way to come to maturity in Christ. Dress standards are just not a way to mature someone in the Lord.

Im sorry it struck a nerve. I should have mentioned that the lady herself was a saint at our church. Im not talking about unchurched unlearned people
or people who have lost family or anything of the sort. That would be foolish to insinuate those folks had to abide by some dress code. I was certainly not belittleing instilling Gods word in people
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