Will Conservatives Self-Fulfill Phophecy in Nov.?

Hoovie · #1 05-26-2008, 02:00 AM

This http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/m...mo_code=6293-1 Newsmax article claims:

One unidentified source long-active in Christian politics told Novak that many evangelicals have embraced the concept that an Obama presidency "might be what the American people deserve."

That, writes Novak, "fits what has largely been a fringe position among evangelicals - that the pain of an Obama presidency is in keeping with the Bible's prophecy."

© 2008 Newsmax. All rights reserved.

Could you sit out of a general election or even intentionally vote for someone you opposed, just to inflict a well deserved "Pain" on the country?

I can understand (sort of) voting third party if it matches ones ideals much better than the other choices.

But the idea of self-fulfilling doom is a bit weird to me.

pelathais · #2 05-26-2008, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover

This http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/m...mo_code=6293-1 Newsmax article claims:

One unidentified source long-active in Christian politics told Novak that many evangelicals have embraced the concept that an Obama presidency "might be what the American people deserve."

That, writes Novak, "fits what has largely been a fringe position among evangelicals - that the pain of an Obama presidency is in keeping with the Bible's prophecy."

© 2008 Newsmax. All rights reserved.

Could you sit out of a general election or even intentionally vote for someone you opposed, just to inflict a well deserved "Pain" on the country?

I can understand (sort of) voting third party if it matches ones ideals much better than the other choices.

But the idea of self-fulfilling doom is a bit weird to me.

It's a wrong headed notion, that's for sure. It seems to resonate with the "I'm in touch with God and if you don't agree with my every mood swing and hormonal imbalance that just proves you're going to burn in hell..." mindset.

People like this abdicated their moral gravitas long ago.

Sister Alvear · #3 05-26-2008, 07:47 AM

America may face what she has never faced but to vote for him trying to fulfill prophecy seems a little far out in my mind...

ManOfWord · #4 05-26-2008, 07:50 AM

If we get him, it may well be what we deserve....but it won't be because I voted for him, I can guarantee you that!!

RevBuddy · #5 05-26-2008, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ManOfWord

If we get him, it may well be what we deserve....but it won't be because I voted for him, I can guarantee you that!!

I agree with MOW!! If he is elected, it will not be because I voted for him as some sort of protest...that's a decidedly silly notion...

...but wait, that means I agree with MOW?!?!?! How in the world did that happen??!!?!?! It must be the end-time!

Esther · #6 05-26-2008, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

So true friend...America really needs to pray. I cannot see how any christian could vote for Obama...

Amen Sister!!!!

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Originally Posted by RevBuddy

I agree with MOW!! If he is elected, it will not be because I voted for him as some sort of protest...that's a decidedly silly notion...

...but wait, that means I agree with MOW?!?!?! How in the world did that happen??!!?!?! It must be the end-time!

Same here.

Sister Alvear · #7 05-26-2008, 08:15 AM

So true friend...America really needs to pray. I cannot see how any christian could vote for Obama...

#8 05-26-2008, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

So true friend...America really needs to pray. I cannot see how any christian could vote for Obama...

I can't see how any Christian can vote for any modern corporate lackey Republican who will just shaft the American people they more corporate cronyism. I like REAL discussion. Abortion and gay marriage is off the table because the Republicans don't plan on really addressing those issues. This is about rather you'll be able to afford health insurance. This is about rather you'll be able to afford groceries. This is if you'll keep your job so you can feed your family. This is about bread and butter issues. The Republicans have given corporations cart blanche permission to move more and more of American jobs overseas without upholding fair trade principles that protect foreign workers and domestic production.

Most loonies I know here who don't like Obama think he's a Muslim who won't say the Pledge. This has been thoroughly debunked by fact checkers but loonies still believe it because they're so gullible. If that's happening here in the U.S. ....I can only imagine what kind of insanity is being said about him in Brazil.

scotty · #9 05-27-2008, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Grasshopper

And what if Obama proves to be a relatively decent, though liberal, President?

I remember a wiley-eyed sister tell me President Clinton was Antichrist and assured me he'd declare martial law, stay in office, and lead our nation into global Beast government.

Well, it did take him awhile to leave after Bush swore in. He threw himself that big party in the hanger at Andrews.

I look back at all that foolishness and realize that the conservative paranoia is down right laughable. Bush, a conservative Republican has proven to be the closest thing we've had to a dictator in America's history.

While Bush didn't commit adultery...Bush is a war mongering, globalist, who's policies have nearly eviscerated Constitutional liberties via the Patriot Act.

I think McCain is far more terrifying than Obama. Obama may not only make history..So we are supposed to look forward to that just because he will be the first black president? Now there is a sensable reason to run out and vote..he may be our generations great orator like Abraham Lincoln. (Remember Lincoln was viewed by his political opponents as a radical liberal.)

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Originally Posted by Grasshopper

I can't see how any Christian can vote for any modern corporate lackey Republican who will just shaft the American people they more corporate cronyism. I like REAL discussion. Abortion and gay marriage is off the table because the Republicans don't plan on really addressing those issues. This is about rather you'll be able to afford health insurance.

This is about rather you'll be able to afford groceries.

This is if you'll keep your job so you can feed your family.

This is about bread and butter issues.

The Republicans have given corporations cart blanche permission to move more and more of American jobs overseas without upholding fair trade principles that protect foreign workers and domestic production. Nope, the workers done that all by themselves. And don't forget, clinton sold us out to China long before any Trade Agreement.

Most loonies I know here who don't like Obama think he's a Muslim who won't say the Pledge. So we don't like Obama makes us a "loony" ? That's original, and mature to say the least. This has been thoroughly debunked by fact checkers but loonies still believe it because they're so gullible. If that's happening here in the U.S. ....I can only imagine what kind of insanity is being said about him in Brazil.

Isn't it funny though that the muslims are cheering for him to win ? No I don't think he is muslim, but I don't think he has the where-with-all to protect us, I think they cheer for him because they know if he gets elected then it will be a field day on Americans.

Say , are you kin to Christopher Hall ? or ...maybe......him in disguise ?

1Corinth2v4 · #10 05-27-2008, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

So true friend...America really needs to pray. I cannot see how any christian could vote for Obama...

Why is that Sister Alvear? How's the Amazon? How I long to get a lawn chair and sit in the middle of the jungles, in the midnight hours. I'm sure the sounds would be relaxing.

P.S. I would also have a 44mag on my lap