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03-01-2008, 03:29 AM
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Western District Conference Controversy
The Western District Conference, scheduled in May has been moved to another location. The Pastor of the church where District Conference was originally to be held is on the General Council of the WPF. However, the Bishop of the church is remaining UPC.
What should the District do in this situation? Did they make the right move?
With the recent decision handed down by the General Board, the WD appears to have every right to move the conference.
Some in the District feel that this was a wrong move, and have appealed to Headquarters. There is a lot of pressure for the District to move the conference back to its original location.
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03-01-2008, 07:39 AM
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Re: Western District Conference Controversy
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Originally Posted by Minister_WD
The Western District Conference, scheduled in May has been moved to another location. The Pastor of the church where District Conference was originally to be held is on the General Council of the WPF. However, the Bishop of the church is remaining UPC.
What should the District do in this situation? Did they make the right move?
With the recent decision handed down by the General Board, the WD appears to have every right to move the conference.
Some in the District feel that this was a wrong move, and have appealed to Headquarters. There is a lot of pressure for the District to move the conference back to its original location.
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I wasn't going to say anything about this subject but since it has now been posted, here are a few more bits of information for you to consider:
1. The pastor, in question, did not attend the conference in Tulsa.
2. The WD officials did not contact said pastor about the changes. Others told him.
3. Because of the way it was handled the pastor doesn't want the Conference there.
4. This pastor, as well as others, is considering going independent because of the actions and confusion being created by both sides. [ UPCI and WPF ]
Raven
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03-01-2008, 09:18 AM
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Re: Western District Conference Controversy
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I wasn't going to say anything about this subject but since it has now been posted, here are a few more bits of information for you to consider:
1. The pastor, in question, did not attend the conference in Tulsa.
2. The WD officials did not contact said pastor about the changes. Others told him.
3. Because of the way it was handled the pastor doesn't want the Conference there.
4. This pastor, as well as others, is considering going independent because of the actions and confusion being created by both sides. [ UPCI and WPF ]
Raven
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And how is the mighty Miles?
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03-03-2008, 11:47 AM
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Re: Western District Conference Controversy
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And how is the mighty Miles?
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He has nothing to do with this discussion.
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03-03-2008, 11:50 AM
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Re: Western District Conference Controversy
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Originally Posted by Raven
I wasn't going to say anything about this subject but since it has now been posted, here are a few more bits of information for you to consider:
1. The pastor, in question, did not attend the conference in Tulsa.
2. The WD officials did not contact said pastor about the changes. Others told him.
3. Because of the way it was handled the pastor doesn't want the Conference there.
4. This pastor, as well as others, is considering going independent because of the actions and confusion being created by both sides. [ UPCI and WPF ]
Raven
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Raven, I agree with your assessments. This whole situation makes me want to bang my head up against the wall. This is a snapshot of the state of the WD, I am seriously starting to doubt whether we will have a district left when the dust finally settles. Such a monumental waste.
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03-03-2008, 04:02 PM
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Re: Western District Conference Controversy
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Originally Posted by dizzyde
Raven, I agree with your assessments. This whole situation makes me want to bang my head up against the wall. This is a snapshot of the state of the WD, I am seriously starting to doubt whether we will have a district left when the dust finally settles. Such a monumental waste.
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Dizzy
Next year, about this time, I have a name in mind, that you might be familiar with, who possibly could put things back on track. This person would be crazy to take on the headache but it probably is the answer. It may take awhile, but I'll just patiently wait, until everyone else catches up with my discernment. 
Raven
Do I have anything to say from about 2400 miles away? Yes, 8 little reasons that live in the NorCal District. My Grandkids!
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03-03-2008, 04:50 PM
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Re: Western District Conference Controversy
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Dizzy
Next year, about this time, I have a name in mind, that you might be familiar with, who possibly could put things back on track. This person would be crazy to take on the headache but it probably is the answer. It may take awhile, but I'll just patiently wait, until everyone else catches up with my discernment. 
Raven
Do I have anything to say from about 2400 miles away? Yes, 8 little reasons that live in the NorCal District. My Grandkids!
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It seems that there are many others in the district who have this name in mind as well. AA may end up being a one term DS.
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03-03-2008, 05:18 PM
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Re: Western District Conference Controversy
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Dizzy
Next year, about this time, I have a name in mind, that you might be familiar with, who possibly could put things back on track. This person would be crazy to take on the headache but it probably is the answer. It may take awhile, but I'll just patiently wait, until everyone else catches up with my discernment. 
Raven
Do I have anything to say from about 2400 miles away? Yes, 8 little reasons that live in the NorCal District. My Grandkids!
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I don't have a lot to say about that, nobody asks my opinion on these things (I don't know why, I think I'm brilliant!). But if they did, yes, I think crazy is the first word that comes to mind.
I think there would have to be a mighty hand of God, very evident for all to see. A lot of factors would come into play.
To be very fair, it is not an easy job in the very best of times, and this last year has been about the furthest thing from the best of times that anyone could have imagined.
I don't know if anyone could have dealt with all of this and made the best decisions all the time, and made everybody happy (that will never happen, trust me.)
I guess the best plan is to pray for God's will and His hand on everyone involved. (I think they should ask me, I have done such a GREAT job with my own life, I could straighten everybody out! EXTREME TIC!)
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03-06-2008, 04:23 PM
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Re: Western District Conference Controversy
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Originally Posted by dizzyde
Raven, I agree with your assessments. This whole situation makes me want to bang my head up against the wall. This is a snapshot of the state of the WD, I am seriously starting to doubt whether we will have a district left when the dust finally settles. Such a monumental waste.
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NO it is not. This is not a snapshot since the WD is going to be split into two new Distincts. The South already has it's board selected.
And just who are we supposed to believe anyways? There is always so much rumor going around I never know what to believe...
In fact I hear tell the pastor in question as a propeller that springs out of his butt and flies him around the church while he is preaching...it's amazing really
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03-06-2008, 04:27 PM
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Re: Western District Conference Controversy
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
NO it is not. This is not a snapshot since the WD is going to be split into two new Distincts. The South already has it's board selected.
And just who are we supposed to believe anyways? There is always so much rumor going around I never know what to believe...
In fact I hear tell the pastor in question as a propeller that springs out of his butt and flies him around the church while he is preaching...it's amazing really 
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Ouch. That sounds painful.
Diz, you show me your name and I'll show you mine.
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