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02-25-2008, 11:48 AM
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Latest UPC Growth Numbers (Declining)
Number of Churches and Daughter Works in North America
2006 = 4380
2008 = 4358
Does anyone have numbers from further back?
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02-25-2008, 12:02 PM
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Re: Latest UPC Growth Numbers (Declining)
The fact that they have 22 less churches doesn't neccessarily mean the total membership has declined over that 2 year period.
What we'd need to see is their total membership numbers, not the number of churches.
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02-25-2008, 12:17 PM
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Re: Latest UPC Growth Numbers (Declining)
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Originally Posted by TRFrance
The fact that they have 22 less churches doesn't neccessarily mean the total membership has declined over that 2 year period.
What we'd need to see is their total membership numbers, not the number of churches.
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Does the UPC have such membership numbers?
I think these numbers are significant, however.
It seems to show the UPC is stagnating currently.
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02-25-2008, 12:19 PM
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Re: Latest UPC Growth Numbers (Declining)
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Originally Posted by Alter Ego
Does the UPC have membership numbers?
I think the numbers are significant, however.
The UPC seems to be stagnating currently.
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The most shocking stat on the UPC to me is the age demographic of licensed ministers. The vast majority are over 40 and a significant portion (I forget what percentage) are over 50 and 60.
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02-25-2008, 12:22 PM
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Re: Latest UPC Growth Numbers (Declining)
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The most shocking stat on the UPC to me is the age demographic of licensed ministers. The vast majority are over 40 and a significant portion (I forget what percentage) are over 50 and 60.
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I wonder if this holds true for clergy of all denominations in America?
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02-26-2008, 01:42 AM
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Re: Latest UPC Growth Numbers (Declining)
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I wonder if this holds true for clergy of all denominations in America?
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I was in a Catholic church four or five years ago and the priest made pretty much the same observation regarding the average age of priests in the US being in their 50's or something like that.
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02-25-2008, 12:30 PM
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Re: Latest UPC Growth Numbers (Declining)
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Oh but we have Global Impact and we are gong to double in ten years lol
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Why are you mocking them? What's wrong with setting ambitious goals for the Kingdom, and working toward them ?
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Originally Posted by Alter Ego
Does the UPC have such membership numbers?
I think these numbers are significant, however.
It seems to show the UPC is stagnating currently.
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Stagnating?
Keep in mind many groups and churches have broken off from the UPCI over the years, but still remain Apostolic. So as long as they remain in the Kingdom of God, and He is glorified, the statistics of an individual denomination are not that important.
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02-25-2008, 12:34 PM
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Re: Latest UPC Growth Numbers (Declining)
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Originally Posted by TRFrance
Why are you mocking them? What's wrong with setting ambitious goals for the Kingdom, and working toward them ?
Stagnating?
Keep in mind many groups and churches have broken off from the UPCI over the years, but still remain Apostolic. So as long as they remain in the Kingdom of God, and He is glorified, the statistics of an individual denomination are not that important.
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Agreed. Lets think about what organizations have developed as a result of braking off from the UPCI, then groups that have subsequently broken off from them, still remaining apostolic. A group's acronym hanging above a church sign is not a true picture of it relevance or impact.
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02-25-2008, 01:07 PM
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Re: Latest UPC Growth Numbers (Declining)
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Originally Posted by TRFrance
Stagnating?
Keep in mind many groups and churches have broken off from the UPCI over the years, but still remain Apostolic. So as long as they remain in the Kingdom of God, and He is glorified, the statistics of an individual denomination are not that important.
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02-26-2008, 02:12 PM
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Re: Latest UPC Growth Numbers (Declining)
Quote:
Originally Posted by TRFrance
Why are you mocking them? What's wrong with setting ambitious goals for the Kingdom, and working toward them ?
Stagnating?
Keep in mind many groups and churches have broken off from the UPCI over the years, but still remain Apostolic. So as long as they remain in the Kingdom of God, and He is glorified, the statistics of an individual denomination are not that important.
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What gets me is the not only is he mocking them, but he's a licensed minister with them. 
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