Anyone Here Believe In Annihilation Of The Wicked?

[Michael The Disciple]

By that I mean that after being cast into Hell for however long God choses the wicked will cease to exist. Dont know if I am up for a debate on it right now but would like to know if anyone else believes in it.

[RevDWW]

As in the wicked are consummed in the fire of hell without suffering for eternity?

IF that's what you're asking I can't see that in scripture.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by RevDWW

As in the wicked are consummed in the fire of hell without suffering for eternity?

IF that's what you're asking I can't see that in scripture.

As in this:

28: And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
Matt. 10:28

The soul being destroyed in Hell.

Exactly what YHWH said in the OT.

4: Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die. Ezekiel 18:4

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

By that I mean that after being cast into Hell for however long God choses the wicked will cease to exist. Dont know if I am up for a debate on it right now but would like to know if anyone else believes in it.

After whatever is a "just recompense of reward" the "fire" will burn everything that is unlike God, after this punishment of the wicked, the wicked will then willing accept and glorify God. This will finally bring about the ultimate purpose for Jesus' death, all will then be reconciled to God and to each other.

Surely, God will not fail in all He purposed to do, "seek and save the lost". Neither the so called "freewill of man" nor the wimpy efforts of Satan will defeat the purpose of the Almighty.

"Many are the plans of man, but it is the purpose of God that shall prevail", The Psalms.

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by crakjak

After whatever is a "just recompense of reward" the "fire" will burn everything that is unlike God, after this punishment of the wicked, the wicked will then willing accept and glorify God. This will finally bring about the ultimate purpose for Jesus' death, all will then be reconciled to God and to each other.

Surely, God will not fail in all He purposed to do, "seek and save the lost". Neither the so called "freewill of man" nor the wimpy efforts of Satan will defeat the purpose of the Almighty.

"Many are the plans of man, but it is the purpose of God that shall prevail", The Psalms.

This is also known as Universal Reconciliation, and is not the same as Annihilation of the wicked.

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover

This is also known as Universal Reconciliation, and is not the same as Annihilation of the wicked.

Exactly! If the vast majority of God's creation is consumed or are eternally in "endless torture", it would be as if God's purpose has failed and Satan's purpose has succeeded. If a doctrine is inconsistent with the essense of God, then it cannot be true.

I believe more folks reject entering into the life available by Jesus' righteous act, because of the traditional teaching of God as a retributivist, than any other single thing. You may fear, live in awe of, and even try to obey, but hardly love such a god.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by crakjak

Exactly! If the vast majority of God's creation is consumed or are eternally in "endless torture", it would be as if God's purpose has failed and Satan's purpose has succeeded. If a doctrine is inconsistent with the essense of God, then it cannot be true.

I believe more folks reject entering into the life available by Jesus' righteous act, because of the traditional teaching of God as a retributivist, than any other single thing. You may fear, live in awe of, and even try to obey, but hardly love such a god.

You could not be more wrong. After this mere 6ooo years or so is done and all the wicked are destroyed millions of years will roll on and all people who are born from that time on will be righteous.

Looking BACK from that eternal age to our little sliver of time will show the huge huge majority of the creation of YHWH being faithful and not sinners.

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

You could not be more wrong. After this mere 6ooo years or so is done and all the wicked are destroyed millions of years will roll on and all people who are born from that time on will be righteous.

Looking BACK from that eternal age to our little sliver of time will show the huge huge majority of the creation of YHWH being faithful and not sinners.

Doesn't it make more sense that God will defeat Satan by "burning" up all the chaff and dross (sin), rather than burning up souls created by Himself? Will He not defeat His enemies by treating them same way He tells us to treat our enemies? By loving them and turning the into friends, by forgiving them as He told us to forgive even to "7X70" in one day? If a doctrine is in opposition to the essence of God it is necessarily false.

LOVE NEVER FAILS! Of course the traditional view and also annihilation teach that God's love, "the perfect" love, in fact DOES FAIL! And what is stronger than the perfect love of God? Well, the ALL MIGHTY "freewill" of men. NO WAY!!!!

[Scott Hutchinson]

I think the term for what is being discussed here is conditional immortality.

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson

I think the term for what is being discussed here is conditional immortality.

Conditional Immortality gives another false hope outside of applying the blood.

The teaching of Annihilation Of The Wicked teaches the Wicked are physically consumed in Hellfire.