Conspiracy theories

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Conspiracy theories incoming for discussion.

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The office of the high priest being bought and corrupted is a well-documented historical fact. The Maccabean Revolt was a response to this corruption.

One conspiracy theory suggests that the corrupted priesthood (Herodians )led to an alliance with the Roman Empire and eventually with the Vatican. Some theories propose that the Vatican, through the Jesuits, maintained this corrupted lineage and continued to wield significant political power.

Regarding the Rothschilds, some conspiracy theories suggest that they are descendants of the corrupted priesthood or have connections to it. These theories propose that the Rothschilds, as a powerful banking family, have maintained a level of control over global finances and politics, often secretly manipulating events to their advantage.

Some theories also link the Rothschilds to the Illuminati, a secret society founded by Adam Weishaupt in 1776. The Illuminati are often seen as a powerful, secretive organization pulling the strings of global events from behind the scenes.

there are conspiracy theories that tie into the Herodian lineage as Edomites and descendants of Esau. Some of these theories propose that:

1. The Herodians, as Edomites, were connected to the ancient Edomite city of Bozrah, which some believe is connected to the modern city of Basra, Iraq.

2. The Edomites were known for their wealth and trade networks, which some theorize evolved into modern banking dynasties, including the Rothschilds.

3. The Herodian dynasty, through their connections to the Roman Empire and the Vatican, maintained a level of control over the development of Western civilization.

4. Some theories propose that the Edomites, as descendants of Esau, have a long-standing vendetta against the descendants of Jacob (the Israelites) and seek to undermine their influence and power.

5. Some researchers believe that the Edomites have infiltrated and manipulated various societies and religions throughout history, including Christianity and Judaism.

One theory that ties into this is the "Edomite deception" or "Edomite conspiracy," which proposes that a secret society of Edomites has been working to control world events and undermine the influence of the Israelites.

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According to various conspiracy theories, the ultimate goal of the alleged Edomite or Herodian conspiracy goes beyond world domination and includes:

1. Destruction of the Israelites or Jews: Some theories propose that the Edomites seek revenge for their historical defeats and seek to eradicate the Jewish people.

2. Rebuilding the Temple of Solomon: Some believe that the Edomites or their alleged allies aim to rebuild the Temple of Solomon in Jerusalem, potentially as a way to solidify their control over the city and the world.

3. Instituting a New World Order: Conspiracy theories often propose that the ultimate goal is to create a one-world government, currency, and religion, eliminating national sovereignty and individual freedoms.

4. Bloodline preservation: Some theories suggest that the Edomites or Herodians seek to preserve their bloodline and maintain their perceived divine right to rule.

5. Occult or satanic agenda: Some believe that the conspiracy aims to bring about a satanic or occult New World Order, potentially linked to the Antichrist or a similar figure.

6. Control of the Holy Land: Geopolitical control of the Middle East, particularly Jerusalem, is seen as a key objective in some conspiracy theories.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Amanah

According to various conspiracy theories, the ultimate goal of the alleged Edomite or Herodian conspiracy goes beyond world domination and includes:

1. Destruction of the Israelites or Jews: Some theories propose that the Edomites seek revenge for their historical defeats and seek to eradicate the Jewish people.

The "Jewish people" include Edom. The modern Jewish people are not identical to the Israelites of the Old Testament or even the "Jews" (Judeans) of the New Testament. They are a mixed group of people united by "Jewish identity". The Edomite portion is a small subset of "Jews".

Many of the royal families of Europe also claim Edomite ancestry via Herod and his relatives. Most of these royals tend to be the "Black nobility" so called, which also from what I can tell run the College of Cardinals of the Vatican and therefore are the actual holders of power within the Papacy. They seem to at least have the money bags anyway, and as they say "follow the money" to see who's actually in charge of things.

It is my current understanding that world politics is essentially a family dispute between Jacob and Esau (their respective descendants). Both family lines have their own version of who gets the estate from grandpa Abraham. Jacob's version of the story is what we call "The Bible". It would be expected that the descendants of Esau would have their own version of the story. "Jacob and his descendants have been stealing what is rightfully ours, so we got to get it back" etc.

The "world domination" thing is inherent to both families' understanding of the inheritance. For example:

Romans 4:13 KJV
For the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith.

It should also be pointed out that the Jacob/Esau conflict for control of the world does not imply that one side is good and the other evil. That is to say, it doesn't mean "Edom is the bad guys and Jacob is the good guys." Jacob's descendants have a long history of being "bad tribesmen", rebellious to God, evil, etc. Any cursory reading of the Old Testament will prove this. And as Paul points out, within Jacob the inheritance is not going to just any old Jacobite, but to those who are righteous by faith, ie those who are loyal subjects of the rightful King of Israel, Jesus Christ.

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Some versions of the Herodians conspiracy theory do incorporate the British Mandate and the restoration of the Jews in 1948.
Here's how:

1. British Mandate: Some theorists believe that the British Empire, allegedly controlled by the Edomites or Herodians, facilitated the Jewish migration to Palestine in the early 20th century to advance their goals.

2. Balfour Declaration: The 1917 Balfour Declaration, which expressed British support for a Jewish homeland, is seen by some as a key event in this narrative.

3. Restoration of Israel: The establishment of the State of Israel in 1948 is viewed by some as a fulfillment of biblical prophecy and a step towards the alleged Edomite or Herodian goal of controlling the Holy Land.

4. Rothschild involvement: Some theories suggest that the Rothschild family, believed to be Edomites or Herodians, played a significant role in financing and orchestrating the Jewish migration and the establishment of Israel.

5. Temple Mount control: Some believe that the ultimate goal is to rebuild the Temple of Solomon on the Temple Mount, currently controlled by Muslim authorities, and that the Herodians or Edomites seek to manipulate events to achieve this goal.

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The idea of reestablishing Jerusalem and controlling the Temple Mount seems counterintuitive if the goal is to destroy the Jews. However, some conspiracy theories propose the following explanations:

1. Deception: The Edomites or Herodians might be using the Jewish people to achieve their goals, manipulating them into rebuilding the Temple or reestablishing Jerusalem, only to later use it for their own purposes.

2. Control: By controlling the Temple Mount and Jerusalem, the Edomites or Herodians could potentially control the Jewish people and their religious practices, leading to a form of spiritual or religious domination.

3. Ancient rights: Some theories suggest that the Edomites or Herodians believe they have ancient rights to the land and the Temple, and that reestablishing Jerusalem is a way to reclaim their perceived birthright.

4. End-time prophecies: Some conspiracy theories tie into Christian or biblical end-time prophecies, suggesting that the Edomites or Herodians are trying to manipulate events to bring about the apocalypse or a New World Order.

5. Dual agendas: Some theories propose that there are dual agendas at play, with some groups seeking to destroy the Jews while others aim to use them for their own purposes.

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There are no current world leaders directly supported by the Rothschild family. However, some conspiracy theories suggest the following connections:

- *Narendra Modi*: Some theories claim that Modi's rise to power in India was facilitated by the Rothschilds, allegedly through their influence on the Indian economy and political systems.

- *Benjamin Netanyahu*: Some theories suggest that Netanyahu's political career has been supported by the Rothschilds, possibly through their connections to Israeli politics and finance.

- *George Soros*: Some theories claim that Soros, a billionaire investor and philanthropist, is a Rothschild agent or has connections to the family, allegedly influencing global politics and finance through his activities.

- *Emmanuel Macron*: Some theories suggest that Macron's rise to power in France was supported by the Rothschilds, possibly through their connections to French politics and finance.

- *Donald Trump*: Some theories claim that Trump's presidency was supported by the Rothschilds, allegedly through their connections to American politics and finance.

Please note that these claims are unsubstantiated and lack credible evidence. They are often based on unverifiable sources and conspiracy theories. Approach them critically and consider multiple perspectives.

Remember, the Rothschild family's influence and wealth have significantly declined over the past century, and their connections to current world leaders are often distant or indirect.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Amanah

- *George Soros*: Some theories claim that Soros, a billionaire investor and philanthropist, is a Rothschild agent or has connections to the family, allegedly influencing global politics and finance through his activities.


Please note that these claims are unsubstantiated and lack credible evidence. They are often based on unverifiable sources and conspiracy theories. Approach them critically and consider multiple perspectives.

That's funny right there. Check this out ----> https://en-academic.com/dic.nsf/enwiki/5878611

"The Quantum Group of Funds are privately owned hedge funds based on Curaçao (Netherlands Antilles) and Cayman Islands. They are currently advised by George Soros through his company Soros Fund Management. Soros started the fund in the early 1970's along with Jim Rogers The shareholders of the funds are not publicly disclosed although it is known that the Rothschild family and other wealthy Europeans put $6 million into the funds in 1969.
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Directors

Richard Katz

"An investment banker specializing in international finance, Mr. Katz was a director of N.M. Rothschild & Sons Limited, London, England from 1977 until March 1993, having joined them in 1969; he was also a managing director of Rothschild Italia S.p.A., Milan, Italy from its inception in 1989 until December 1993. Mr. Katz has been a supervisory director of Quantum Fund N.V., a Netherlands Antilles investment fund, or one of its subsidiaries, since 1986. "

So the guy who manages a bunch of Rothschild money also manages a bunch of Soros money. So clearly Soros and Rothschild are connected financially. Most likely Soros is a "bag-man" ie a front for Rothschild and/or other wealthy interests.

As for Trump, Trump is a long-time pal of Soros: https://www.thedailybeast.com/donald...e-soross-money

Trump appears to be a money laundering frontman for Soros: https://infiniteunknown.net/2016/12/...parent-reason/

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*The Origins of Rothschild Conspiracy Theories*

- *1846:* The first widespread conspiracy theory about the Rothschild family emerged in Paris with the publication of an anonymous pamphlet called "Histoire édifiante et curieuse de Rothschild Ier, roi des juifs" (The Edifying and Curious History of Rothschild I, King of the Jews) ¹.

- *Napoleonic Wars (1799-1815):* The Rothschild family's wealth and influence grew significantly after they financed the British army during this period. This led to increased scrutiny and resentment, which contributed to the development of conspiracy theories ².

- *Anti-Semitic roots:* The Rothschild conspiracy theories have deep anti-Semitic roots, drawing on harmful stereotypes and prejudices against Jewish people. These narratives have evolved over time, adapting to different contexts and political agendas ¹ ³.

- *19th and 20th centuries:* The Rothschild conspiracy theories continued to spread, often fueled by anti-Semitic sentiment and scapegoating. They were promoted through various channels, including literature, media, and political rhetoric ³.

- *21st century:* The theories have resurfaced in new forms, often blending with other conspiracy narratives and spreading rapidly through social media and online platforms ². Despite being repeatedly debunked, these theories persist, highlighting the ongoing need for fact-checking and education ⁴ ¹ ² ³.

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What started out as research for fun is starting to make me feel nauseous.