Holy Ghost 101: Bernard, Godwin, Borat, Kinzie

DAII · #1 06-11-2010, 08:12 AM

I stumbled across a "manual" in my wife's collection of books on how to receive the Holy Ghost ... "Handbook on Receiving the Holy Ghost" by Fred Kinzie.

Got me to thinking if this indeed is an apostolic concept .... do we find examples of the apostles instructing how to be born from above (gennao anothen) as taught by the 3 stepper today? Is this methodology biblical .... Is this much in the way some slam the sinner's prayer among evangelicals?

What did Greg Godwin miss here before engaging Borat?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrTWJo7a9l0

Should he have followed David Bernard's prescription to receiving Holy Ghost baptism (from his book, The New Birth)?

He did tell Borat to repent? Is this biblical repentance as taught by the Apostles?

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How to Receive the Holy Spirit excerpt ... by David Bernard

Since the baptism of the Holy Spirit is part of salvation and is available to us today, the Spirit is not difficult to receive. God promises His Spirit to all who ask (Luke 11:13), believe (John 7:38-39), and obey His Word (Acts 5:32). The seeker must have faith in God's promise, for without faith it is impossible to please God (Hebrews 11:6).

Peter promised the Spirit to All who would repent and be baptized in the name of Jesus (Acts 2:38). The example of the Samaritans shows that in the absence of complete faith, water baptism cannot automatically bring the Spirit. Moreover, the example of Cornelius shows that the Spirit can come before water baptism. The recipient must totally submit himself to God, willing to do anything God requires. At that point of complete submission and released faith, God pours out His Spirit. If the recipient has not been baptized in water in Jesus' name, he is commanded to do this as soon as possible.

Repentance is necessary. For the Holy Spirit to dwell in a life, that person must turn from sin and separate himself from spiritual uncleanliness (II Corinthians 6:16-7:1). Only God can make him righteous, but he must express a desire to turn from sin and receive pardon, ask for God's help in turning from sin, and surrender totally to God.

If someone will repent and have faith, God will give His Spirit, even though that person may have some false concepts in other areas, such as water baptism. In such cases, God grants His Spirit to lead the sincere person into further truth. God is not looking for reasons to deny the seeker, but He will give His Spirit to anyone who meets the conditions of repentance and faith as set forth in His Word.

If someone wants the baptism of the Holy Spirit, he should come to God with faith, believing His Word and expecting to receive the promise. He should repent from his sins by confessing them, asking pardon, pledging to do God's will (with His help), and totally surrendering to Him. He should determine in his mind that he wants God's Spirit that very day, regardless of what God may require of him in the future. After he repents and makes this total commitment, he should begin to praise God for hearing and answering prayer. Then, the Spirit will come in, take complete control, and inspire the seekers to speak in a language he has never learned. Often, the laying on of hands after repentance helps the seeker focus his faith at a point in time and receive the Spirit. This was a very common practice in the Early Church, although it was not a prerequisite for receiving the Spirit.

It is not wise to emphasize expectation and praise until the seeker has repented, for no matter how much he praises God he cannot receive the Spirit without repentance.

Receiving the Spirit is only as difficult as the seeker makes it. It takes only as much time as he needs to repent and surrender completely to God, which may be just a moment. Tarrying for long periods of time or seeking many times is not necessary. Those who do not receive the Spirit either lack faith to receive or have not fully repented and yielded every area of their lives to God. The 120 on the Day of Pentecost had to wait seven to ten days for the first outpouring, but since that time the Spirit has been freely available to all.

If people are taught how important it is to receive the Spirit baptism, how simple it really is to be filled with the Spirit, and how to prepare their hearts, they usually receive the Spirit easily. If the necessity of the Spirit baptism is taught many people will be filled. On the other hand, if the experience is merely presented as an optional blessing, most people will not. If repentance and faith are taught, most seekers will receive the Spirit in the water of baptism or when hands are laid upon them after repentance.

Young children, the elderly, the uneducated, the educated, the poor, and the rich all receive the Spirit. Buddhists and others from non-Christian backgrounds often receive the Spirit on their first visit to a Christian church. The accounts of Cornelius and the Ephesians both show that a person can receive the Spirit instantly, at the moment he repents and believes.

Rose · #2 06-11-2010, 08:27 AM

Fred Kinzie (Toledo, OH) was my Pastor in the 70's & early 80's... a faithful man of God... passed away in 2009 at the age of 95.

Margies3 · #3 06-11-2010, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Rose

Fred Kinzie (Toledo, OH) was my Pastor in the 70's & early 80's... a faithful man of God... passed away in 2009 at the age of 95.

Rose, do I know you? I went to FAC for one year in the late 60's, then changed over to Antioch Apostolic Church where Paul Dennis was our pastor. Went there from about '69-'76. (then I moved to Pontiac under Roy Well, then to Owosso where Harold Roberts pastored).

Rose · #4 06-12-2010, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Margies3

Rose, do I know you? I went to FAC for one year in the late 60's, then changed over to Antioch Apostolic Church where Paul Dennis was our pastor. Went there from about '69-'76. (then I moved to Pontiac under Roy Well, then to Owosso where Harold Roberts pastored).

No, we don't know each other. I was at FAC in late 70's and early 80's. I am now in KY.