Maga!! Yeehaw!!

[Esaias]

Go get 'em, Republicans! Dead Elephant a gonna save us all! This'll show them pesky dumbocrats! And remember, a vote for the GOP is a vote for sanity! [/sarc]

An immigration compromise deal rolled out by House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-WI) and Rep. Bob Goodlatte (R-VA) would give amnesty to a foreign population that is nearly three times the size of President Obama’s Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...-daca-program/

[Esaias]

NATIONAL SECURITY
Trump administration launches global effort to end criminalization of homosexuality

U.S. Ambassador to Germany Richard Grenell, the highest-profile openly gay person in the Trump administration, is leading the effort, which kicks off Tuesday evening in Berlin. The U.S. embassy is flying in LGBT activists from across Europe for a strategy dinner to plan to push for decriminalization in places that still outlaw homosexuality — mostly concentrated in the Middle East, Africa and the Caribbean.

...

“While a student at Evangel University, a Christian liberal arts college in Missouri, I was taught by biblical scholars that all truth is God’s truth, no matter where it is found. The truth for LGBT people is that we were born gay,” Grenell wrote. “People can disagree philosophically about homosexuality, but no person should ever be subject to criminal penalties because they are gay.”

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/nat...uality-n973081

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Esaias

NATIONAL SECURITY
Trump administration launches global effort to end criminalization of homosexuality

U.S. Ambassador to Germany Richard Grenell, the highest-profile openly gay person in the Trump administration, is leading the effort, which kicks off Tuesday evening in Berlin. The U.S. embassy is flying in LGBT activists from across Europe for a strategy dinner to plan to push for decriminalization in places that still outlaw homosexuality — mostly concentrated in the Middle East, Africa and the Caribbean.

...

“While a student at Evangel University, a Christian liberal arts college in Missouri, I was taught by biblical scholars that all truth is God’s truth, no matter where it is found. The truth for LGBT people is that we were born gay,” Grenell wrote. “People can disagree philosophically about homosexuality, but no person should ever be subject to criminal penalties because they are gay.”

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/nat...uality-n973081

Context is everything:

The administration is responding in part to a reported hanging of a young gay man in Iran, Trump’s top geopolitical foe.

Every person has rights under our United States Constitution. It has nothing to do with religion.

Also, as Christians, we shouldn't be gleeful over murder. A gay person shouldn't be thrown off a building or hung in a town square. That is pure hate, which we should never espouse.

Perhaps the church should learn to see WHY a person has become who they are before wagging our tongues and desiring the demise of a person in sin.

The world should trust the body of Christ to be "wise as a serpent and gentle as a dove."

Just like the woman with the issue of blood who had no way out of her delimma under the OT Covenant. She found a way out when the hypocrites brought her to the feet of mercy. That is the worse place to bring a person you want to see stoned.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Context is everything:

The administration is responding in part to a reported hanging of a young gay man in Iran, Trump’s top geopolitical foe.

Every person has rights under our United States Constitution. It has nothing to do with religion.

Also, as Christians, we shouldn't be gleeful over murder. A gay person shouldn't be thrown off a building or hung in a town square. That is pure hate, which we should never espouse.

Perhaps the church should learn to see WHY a person has become who they are before wagging our tongues and desiring the demise of a person in sin.

The world should trust the body of Christ to be "wise as a serpent and gentle as a dove."

Just like the woman with the issue of blood who had no way out of her delimma under the OT Covenant. She found a way out when the hypocrites brought her to the feet of mercy. That is the worse place to bring a person you want to see stoned.

Excuses, excuses, you hear them every day...

Anyone old enough to remember that song?

Should be the national anthem by now.

[jediwill83]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Excuses, excuses, you hear them every day...

Anyone old enough to remember that song?

Should be the national anthem by now.

So pro hanging then?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Make Greece Great Again!!!!!

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by jediwill83

So pro hanging then?

Pro gay then?

America has been exporting perversion and immorality around the world via Hollyweird etc, now it's becoming an official policy under Trump. Opposition to perversion and deviancy has moved from "don't ask don't tell" to "a matter of national security".

So MAGA, 'Murica, Greatest Sho- uh, Nation, On Earth, God Bless America, Oh Say Can You See....

There it is:

Oh say can you see, by the dawn's early light,
How so proudly we stand, for perversion and abortion?

We will kill our babies, fighting for sodomy,
And the nations of the earth, we will force to comply.

And the rockets' red glare, the bombs' bursting o'er there,
Give proof to the world, our iniquity we'll share!

Oh say does that star spangled banner yet wave,
O'er the land of endless fees, and the home of the slave?

Or, how about:

This land ain't your land, soon be a wasteland,
From Commiefornia, to Epstein's island;
Cause fornication, adultery 'n abortion,
This land of church and trannies!

pfft.

[jediwill83]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Context is everything:

The administration is responding in part to a reported hanging of a young gay man in Iran, Trump’s top geopolitical foe.

Every person has rights under our United States Constitution. It has nothing to do with religion.

Also, as Christians, we shouldn't be gleeful over murder. A gay person shouldn't be thrown off a building or hung in a town square. That is pure hate, which we should never espouse.

Perhaps the church should learn to see WHY a person has become who they are before wagging our tongues and desiring the demise of a person in sin.

The world should trust the body of Christ to be "wise as a serpent and gentle as a dove."

Just like the woman with the issue of blood who had no way out of her delimma under the OT Covenant. She found a way out when the hypocrites brought her to the feet of mercy. That is the worse place to bring a person you want to see stoned.

We are all worthy of death...but there is none who is worthy nor has the right nor the authority to bring it upon another other than God.


If I do not have the right to end my own life...I do not have the right to end the life of another and nor will I celebrate it.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by jediwill83

We are all worthy of death...but there is none who is worthy nor has the right nor the authority to bring it upon another other than God.


If I do not have the right to end my own life...I do not have the right to end the life of another and nor will I celebrate it.

God, who as you say has the authority, has publicly stated that certain crimes are to be punished by the civil power, including some crimes which - according to Jesus - incur the death penalty.

Are you against the death penalty altogether? Was God unrighteous when He dictated that society shall put to death murderers, kidnappers, adulterers, fornicators, rapists, sodomites, bestialists, witches, idolaters, blasphemers, incorrigible delinquents, etc?

Take a look around you. See what has become of America. All because muh tolerance and care bear religion, muh I'm gonna rapture outta here so don't care about the cesspool I leave for my grandkids (cause prolly ain't having grandkids cuz kids aint even sure which bathroom they're supposed to use and overpopulation and muh two income fambly us public skewl daycare).

I remember America when we were glad to be Americans NOT because muh gay bondage parades and freedumb fries but because this was God's Country and we were blessed by Providence. I watched our society cancel that episode right before my eyes. God is not mocked.

Every man to his tents.

[jediwill83]

Originally Posted by Esaias

God, who as you say has the authority, has publicly stated that certain crimes are to be punished by the civil power, including some crimes which - according to Jesus - incur the death penalty.

Are you against the death penalty altogether? Was God unrighteous when He dictated that society shall put to death murderers, kidnappers, adulterers, fornicators, rapists, sodomites, bestialists, witches, idolaters, blasphemers, incorrigible delinquents, etc?

Take a look around you. See what has become of America. All because muh tolerance and care bear religion, muh I'm gonna rapture outta here so don't care about the cesspool I leave for my grandkids (cause prolly ain't having grandkids cuz kids aint even sure which bathroom they're supposed to use and overpopulation and muh two income fambly us public skewl daycare).

I remember America when we were glad to be Americans NOT because muh gay bondage parades and freedumb fries but because this was God's Country and we were blessed by Providence. I watched our society cancel that episode right before my eyes. God is not mocked.

Every man to his tents.

Bro...I think we are getting some wires crossed...it would seem to me...which doesnt make it reality...but it would seem to me that you're not seeing where Im coming from


Im not pro homosexual but I am VERY anti death.



I am pro liberty....and when I mean liberty...I dont mean the red hat MAGA kind....I mean the setting the captives free kinda...and God didn't call any of us to deliver anyone with a bullet.


Im angry as well and Im frustrated and I totally get the anger at the people that wont work the harvest because they are too busy packing their bags to leave when Jesus beams them up.


What am I gonna do?


What Ive already been doing...working the field bro.


Just listened to an interview with someone over bad eschatology and the effects it has on people and how they see the lost, themselves, their place in this world and their calling to reach it.


Dude I was a victim of some bad teaching and now Im having to do some serious serious SERIOUS soul searching and leaving no stone unturned.


When I speak what I speak...its not some rant or repeating some mess I heard from the favorite campmeeting celebrity of the moment.


This is God putting me on my face with tears or just coming over me as I drive.


If I cant kill someone with my words...Im not gonna let any other part of myself do it either.


You need to do some research into the history of non violence in the church.


For the first 300 years up to Constantine Christians that joined the army of Rome were removed from the church. They have found first source documents of it being spoken of as a policy.


One interaction with a Christian refusing to go to war with a Roman official went kinda like this...


"Why wont you defend the empire from the barbarians? Dont you know they will kill you too?"


Christian reaponded with


"If you were more like us there would be no barbarians."


You can do and think what you want of course...you gotta work out your own salvation...Ive lived my life thinking what I wanted and doing what I wanted with the ability to justify pretty much anything within my own thinking and I cant do that anymore.


Ive lived the hell of what happens and where you find yourself after you have lived as a law unto yourself.


Now government will do whatever government will do...its a worldly system...it steals, kills and destroys...you really wanna be a part of that?


I don't.


I dont wanna be on the recieving end and neither will I be used as a pawn in its machinations.


Get that gay person delivered and filled with the HolyGhost and his life will be cleaned.


If killing is so moral and great...why dont you just go for it dude?


Im sure you can get ringside seats to watch gays being hung and thrown off of roofs...be sure to get extra close so you can get in the splash zone.


Im sure Iran needs the tourism business.


Yeah I know the Muslim invaders are taking resources and our "Christian" charity and seeing it as indidels paying Jizya *or however its spelled"


So?


Are we to refuse to obey scripture because they dont give a flying flip about our feel good virtue signalling?


Im walking through Target and feeling sick and disgusted by things Id watch and fill my mind with and not feel an ounce of disgust or remorse....things like The Purge and all its iterations along with other mess.


If it keeps on like this with the church sitting on its hands we are gonna be in some mess like that and the only reason we havent sunk totally to that level I think is that tv has scratched that itch for bloodshed where we keep our hands clean so we think while living vicariously through someone elses sin real or imagined.


One day tv wont be enough.


The church has a Jonah spirit....we want to see the judgement fall instead of wanting mercy.


Im talking mercy...you know...the goodness of God rhat draws men to repentence? Not tolorence.