Obeying The Gospel

Ron · #1 03-05-2007, 05:54 PM

1Pe 4:17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?

I thought Salvation was a Gift?
Are we saved by "Grace," or is it in "Obedience" to the Gospel which is basically
"Works?"

Come on you Armchair Quarter... er Theologians!

SDG · #2 03-05-2007, 05:59 PM

Are you sure you want to go down this road ...Ron ....one more time????

I they say I'm contentious ....

Ron · #3 03-05-2007, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Are you sure you want to go down this road ...Ron ....one more time????

I they say I'm contentious ....

The Word says it not me!

Does Obedience or Grace save us?

SDG · #4 03-05-2007, 06:02 PM

OK ......

Jesus does!!! LOL.

OneAccord · #5 03-05-2007, 06:44 PM

We are saved by grace. Nothing we do "earns" salvation. Obedience to God's Word is our reponse to His grace.

Its like this... I recieved a Lowes gift certificate in the mail a few months ago. I went to Lowes one Friday and bought a new 14.4 volt drill. I gave them the gift certificate and, because the drill was on sale, I got it for FREE. Didn't cost me a dime. Lowes gift certificate was "grace". I put the drill in the back of my truck and drove home where I promptly forgot about the drill. It stayed in the back of the truck until Monday and, of course it rained all weekend. The drill was ruined. Soaked through. it rusted and I never got to use it. If I would have just "obeyed" common sense and put the drill in the shop, I'd still be using it. But, I didn't obey. I didn't do the "work" of taking care of my free gift.

Jesus paid the price for our salvation. In His mercy and grace, He provided the means for us to be redeemed. All we need to do...is obey what His Word requires of us to maintain our salvation. No we, don't work to get saved... we work (and obey) because we are saved.

SDG · #6 03-05-2007, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by OneAccord

We are saved by grace. Nothing we do "earns" salvation. Obedience to God's Word is our reponse to His grace.

Its like this... I recieved a Lowes gift certificate in the mail a few months ago. I went to Lowes one Friday and bought a new 14.4 volt drill. I gave them the gift certificate and, because the drill was on sale, I got it for FREE. Didn't cost me a dime. Lowes gift certificate was "grace". I put the drill in the back of my truck and drove home where I promptly forgot about the drill. It stayed in the back of the truck until Monday and, of course it rained all weekend. The drill was ruined. Soaked through. it rusted and I never got to use it. If I would have just "obeyed" common sense and put the drill in the shop, I'd still be using it. But, I didn't obey. I didn't do the "work" of taking care of my free gift.

Jesus paid the price for our salvation. In His mercy and grace, He provided the means for us to be redeemed. All we need to do...is obey what His Word requires of us to maintain our salvation. No we, don't work to get saved... we work (and obey) because we are saved.

Haz llover Padre .... Let it rain, Father.

Ron · #7 03-05-2007, 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneAccord

We are saved by grace. Nothing we do "earns" salvation. Obedience to God's Word is our reponse to His grace.

Its like this... I recieved a Lowes gift certificate in the mail a few months ago. I went to Lowes one Friday and bought a new 14.4 volt drill. I gave them the gift certificate and, because the drill was on sale, I got it for FREE. Didn't cost me a dime. Lowes gift certificate was "grace". I put the drill in the back of my truck and drove home where I promptly forgot about the drill. It stayed in the back of the truck until Monday and, of course it rained all weekend. The drill was ruined. Soaked through. it rusted and I never got to use it. If I would have just "obeyed" common sense and put the drill in the shop, I'd still be using it. But, I didn't obey. I didn't do the "work" of taking care of my free gift.

Jesus paid the price for our salvation. In His mercy and grace, He provided the means for us to be redeemed. All we need to do...is obey what His Word requires of us to maintain our salvation. No we, don't work to get saved... we work (and obey) because we are saved.

Sooooo, obeying not the Gospel doesn't mean what it says??

SDG · #8 03-05-2007, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron

Sooooo, obeying not the Gospel doesn't mean what it says??

Let me help me out with this ... it constitutes no faith .. or unbelief. which equals eternal condemnation .....

Ron · #9 03-05-2007, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Let me help me out with this ... it constitutes no faith .. or unbelief. which equals eternal condemnation .....

Let me ask you a Simple Question.

Do you need to "Obey" the Gospel to be saved?

OneAccord · #10 03-05-2007, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron

Sooooo, obeying not the Gospel doesn't mean what it says??

"Obeying not the Gospel" means somebody left their drill in the rain. God granted them salvation, but, because they chose to not obey the Lord .... well... they just lost out.