Formula

Kutless · #1 10-23-2007, 08:37 AM

My friend has left his UPCI church to go a different route. He says its so his wife will go to church with him. The church he goes to know baptizes like this:

"I now baptize you in the name of the Father, son and H.G. in the name of Jesus."

Any thoughts?

StillStanding · #2 10-23-2007, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Kutless

My friend has left his UPCI church to go a different route. He says its so his wife will go to church with him. The church he goes to know baptizes like this:

"I know baptize you in the name of the Father, son and H.G. in the name of Jesus."

Any thoughts?

I have heard that some baptize "in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost WHICH IS Jesus Christ!

Either way, the magic word is spoken!

Praxeas · #3 10-23-2007, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Pianoman

I have heard that some baptize "in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost WHICH IS Jesus Christ!

Either way, the magic word is spoken!

I surely hope you meant that TIC

StillStanding · #4 10-24-2007, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas

I surely hope you meant that TIC

I said that because some believe a baptism is no good at all if the name "Jesus" is not spoken. I don't believe in a magical formula! I believe that the purpose and authority of baptism is important. I believe that "in the name of Jesus Christ" is the formula that is most congruent to scripture. I don't, however, believe that those that are baptized using the Matt 28:19 formula are lost and bound for hell!

#5 10-24-2007, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Pianoman

I said that because some believe a baptism is no good at all if the name "Jesus" is not spoken. I don't believe in a magical formula! I believe that the purpose and authority of baptism is important. I believe that "in the name of Jesus Christ" is the formula that is most congruent to scripture. I don't, however, believe that those that are baptized using the Matt 28:19 formula are lost and bound for hell!

You are almost right.

freeatlast · #6 10-23-2007, 08:55 AM

You know the answer's you'll get Kutless and from who you'll get them.

All the instances in the bible, what was recorded that was said varied from one verse to the other.

Do we really think God will disanul someones salvation over the words above being said in baptism?
I know some of us do. The work of the cross disqualified over a technicality.

I truly believe God is smart enough to know it is He, that is being refered to that "Formula"

Darcie · #7 10-23-2007, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by freeatlast

You know the answer's you'll get Kutless and from who you'll get them.

All the instances in the bible, what was recorded that was said varied from one verse to the other.

Do we really think God will disanul someones salvation over the words above being said in baptism?
I know some of us do. The work of the cross disqualified over a technicality.

I truly believe God is smart enough to know it is He, that is being refered to that "Formula"

GOOD ANSWER!

Sam · #8 10-23-2007, 09:11 AM

Well, in my opinion:
the heart condition of the one being baptized is more important than the amount of water used and the words that are spoken.

Sam · #9 10-23-2007, 09:15 AM

oneness folks don't even agree among themselves on what words to use.
Some insist on "Lord Jesus Christ," others say that if "Lord" is mentioned, it is wrong and needs to be done over. Some say the Father's name is Lord, the Son's name is Jesus' and the Holy Ghost's name is Christ so the three words become one full name.

Sam · #10 10-23-2007, 09:18 AM

I have not been there so I can't verify that this is true, but i have read that a UPC church in Newark, Ohio insists on, "In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, I baptize you in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost."

That's the formula Kenneth Hagin recommended in a book that I read a while back.