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Old 09-22-2007, 04:08 PM
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Preaching truth a hate crime???

Read it for yourself...

http://www.afa.net/hatecrime2.asp

Isn't this horrible? The craziest thing you've ever heard?

Your responses are welcome.....
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Old 09-22-2007, 04:19 PM
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Apostolics are in a FOG.

They think this stuff will only happen in obscure liberal places but a rude awakening is coming.

living out here will give you a reality check as to what is to come
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Old 09-22-2007, 07:15 PM
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Apostolics are in a FOG.

They think this stuff will only happen in obscure liberal places but a rude awakening is coming.

living out here will give you a reality check as to what is to come
Uh...no, us "apostolics" are very much aware that this is happening right here in our back yard....many of us just get ignored for pointing these things out or are called hate mongers by the liberals
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Old 09-22-2007, 09:37 PM
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There is absolutely no way a bill would pass that would make it illegal to say something is immoral.... None...

not even homosexuals would support a bill that would do that...

There are bills about hate speech, but they have more to do with the kind of thing that happened to Mathew Shepard than a preacher saying that it is immoral to be gay but people should be allowed to live thier lives without fear of being killed/beat up/kicked out of public places for the way they choose to live thier lives that harms no one but themselves...
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Old 09-22-2007, 09:56 PM
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There is absolutely no way a bill would pass that would make it illegal to say something is immoral.... None...

not even homosexuals would support a bill that would do that...

There are bills about hate speech, but they have more to do with the kind of thing that happened to Mathew Shepard than a preacher saying that it is immoral to be gay but people should be allowed to live thier lives without fear of being killed/beat up/kicked out of public places for the way they choose to live thier lives that harms no one but themselves...
You really don't think homosexuals advocate this bill?
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Old 09-22-2007, 10:43 PM
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You really don't think homosexuals advocate this bill?
do they advocate the bill? Probably...

But the bill is not making it illegal to preach that homosexuality is immoral...
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sad that America would get herself in the shape she is in...
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The separation of church and state being what it is there is no way this bill
in its present form would keep homosexuality from being preached against in
our churches.
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Now I have a question...why should beating the mess out of a homosexual and killing him because he is a homosexual be a worse crime for beating the mess out of anyone at all and killing them for any other reason? Why do we even need hate crime laws that actually end up forming a specially protected class of Americans?
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Now I have a question...why should beating the mess out of a homosexual and killing him because he is a homosexual be a worse crime for beating the mess out of anyone at all and killing them for any other reason? Why do we even need hate crime laws that actually end up forming a specially protected class of Americans?
Exactly. That's why I said,

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How about laws that simply state it's wrong to violently attack another human being? We don't care what's going on inside your head. We don't care about issues that you had as a child during toilet training. We only want to know, did the cops catch the violent bad guy? Yes, or no.

We got him/her? Good, lock 'em up.
RC responded that "Those laws already exist..." To which I would say, "Oh, it's already illegal to kill and assault? Good. Prosecute those guys and don't waste a lot of my time on the sick drama that plays out in their heads. Just protect the innocent. Keep my sidewalks safe.
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