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Old 08-24-2007, 12:15 PM
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It's Official!!! Randy & Paula White announce Divorce in church last night!

http://www.tbo.com/news/nationworld/MGBA6S84Q5F.html



Didn't anyone see this coming ?
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Old 08-24-2007, 12:29 PM
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Seems like a sad prophecy coming to pass.. ...
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Old 08-24-2007, 01:04 PM
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Why can't two holy ghost filled people find a way to work out their marriage differences? This is another sad story.
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Old 08-24-2007, 01:08 PM
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Why can't two holy ghost filled people find a way to work out their marriage differences? This is another sad story.
yes, the story is sad. But the answer lies in your own question....
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Old 08-24-2007, 01:14 PM
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Though everyone knows I do not believe either of these folks are saved yet it is very sad for any marriage to break up.
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Old 08-24-2007, 02:57 PM
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yes, the story is sad. But the answer lies in your own question....
Theresa, I don't want to put words in your mouth, so could you explain what you meant? The answer that lies in the question is.... what?
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Theresa, I don't want to put words in your mouth, so could you explain what you meant? The answer that lies in the question is.... what?
well, I really dont want to get myself into a position of "bashing" them or being judgemental...so I hesitate to elaborate on what I meant. (for fear of being taken as such)

But his question said something about being Holy Ghost filled...I personally think if they WERE HG FILLED, we wouldnt be reading such an article.

Another great point was made about their focus on their ministries instead of their relationship - and we cant begin to know all the ins and outs, but I think their focus shifted a long time ago and herein lies their problem.

if they were full of the HG, I dont think any of this would have happened. the HG doesnt make one perfect, but it sure doesnt make something for mass marketing....

I just dont think when Jesus left this earth that these flashy, multi million dollar productions is what he had in mind when he said we'd be fishers of men..you know?
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Old 08-24-2007, 03:20 PM
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well, I really dont want to get myself into a position of "bashing" them or being judgemental...so I hesitate to elaborate on what I meant. (for fear of being taken as such)

But his question said something about being Holy Ghost filled...I personally think if they WERE HG FILLED, we wouldnt be reading such an article.

Another great point was made about their focus on their ministries instead of their relationship - and we cant begin to know all the ins and outs, but I think their focus shifted a long time ago and herein lies their problem.

if they were full of the HG, I dont think any of this would have happened. the HG doesnt make one perfect, but it sure doesnt make something for mass marketing....

I just dont think when Jesus left this earth that these flashy, multi million dollar productions is what he had in mind when he said we'd be fishers of men..you know?
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Why can't two holy ghost filled people find a way to work out their marriage differences? This is another sad story.

Act 5:32 "And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the HOLY GHOST, whom God hath GIVEN TO them that OBEY HIM."

The Whites needed to get the Holy Ghost. The bottom article was written in May 20th 2007 interesting how that came out only four months before their split. The Whites were more of what TELEVANGELISM has to offer the world.

I pray that the United Pentecostal Church International takes heed to all of this before September. Vote NO on Televison.

Paula And Randy White

Excerpts from a May 20, 2007 Tampa Tribune article, Of Faith, Fame & Fortune, by Michelle Bearden And Baird Helgeson

The Whites' church, founded in 1991, became Without Walls International, a church that claims 23,500 members on two campuses and is ranked one of the largest and fastest-growing independent churches in the country, according to Church Growth Today, a consulting company. Without Walls, including its Lakeland campus and Paula’s broadcast ministry, took in $35 million in tithes and offerings last year, according to a recent audit by Lewis, Birch & Ricardo CPAs. [The audit was posted online last week - the first public accounting in the church’s history - after The Tampa Tribune requested a copy]. How much of the revenue goes to the Whites, the couple won’t say. The audit lists more than $5.5 million in salaries for 2006. The church declined to say how many employees were on the payroll.

Most of the couple’s personal income comes from private businesses, including a real estate company, sales of nutritional supplements and speaking engagements, he said. Since 2005, two of their businesses have sold $871,000 in books, DVDs, CDs and clothing to the church, according to the recent audit. Paula is , a sought-after speaker at Christian programs, women's retreats and success seminars. She just launched a health and fitness program, "10 Commandments of Health and Wellness," and in July, she'll launch her "Life by Design" workshops across the street from Madison Square Garden. Her companion book, "You're All That: Discovering God's Design on Your Life," comes out in October.

Notice, they have for profit businesses, that profit from the church. Once these pimps make a big building, they make up businesses to offer various goods and services and milk the church coffers for more bucks. That’s what you really call getting paid coming and going! Notice there is no full total for all the money they make from all their private businesses. So how much of the money coming in is going out to help the needy? [quote by Randy and Paula White are Vipers! by Independent Conservative].

It paid more than $3.1 million for “missions, outreach and benevolence” last year, according to the audit. [less than the $5.5 million payroll and less than 10% of the $35 million collected last year]. Yes, they do good works, said former staff member Larry DeLaRosa. But given the millions in revenue, Without Walls should be doing more, he said..."They've built an empire and used it to gain their own financial wealth," he said. "If I had one-tenth of what they have, I could do twice as many ministries as they say they're supporting now."

"Since 2000, court records show five business deals that soured after the Whites refused to pay”, including

“Jacqueline Knight, who runs a Tampa public relations and marketing company, said, "We've moved on and we're friends again" after she placed a lien on the church for $16,782 in unpaid bills in April 2002. She was paid an undisclosed sum before it got to court...."

Former airplane broker Todd Bates and Randy repeatedly discussed features and costs. of a a small business jet. Randy asked that the landing gear be overhauled before the sale, and, as the aircraft sat jacked up in the middle of the maintenance, Bates said Randy stopped returning his calls. Learning that Randy had bought a plane from someone else Todd Bates “sued the church in Oakland County Court in Michigan, seeking $100,000 in damages, the commission he would have received on the deal. The church ended up settling for even more: $125,000”.

"County Court Judge Paul Huey ordered the church to pay Cox-Feivelson Antiques and Design Gallery $10,217 for unpaid bills in November."

"The trappings are physical as well. Both the Whites have undergone cosmetic surgery, seeming to grow younger over the past five years. “We’re on television, and you’ve got to look the part,” Randy said".

“Randy who "admits that he doesn’t pray before meals, bears several tattoos and enjoys wine" said strip club owner Joe Redner should have been elected to the Tampa City Council in November (”He would have been good for this city”)"”... “Redner attended a Sunday service and spoke to the congregation in July 2006”.

"In January 2005, he was featured on the cover of Makes and Models Magazine, a glossy publication devoted to exotic cars, motorcycles and scantily clad female models. Associate editor Rodney Burrell, then a church member, wrote a glowing story about Randy called “Riding for Souls.” Although putting Randy on the cover - he stood posed next to his wife’s Mercedes SL55, valued at more than $100,000 - was Burrell’s idea, the church had to buy $7,500 worth of magazines for the privilege".

“Donald Trump appeared on Paula’s TV show, “Paula White Today” in October 2006”:

Randy White is also far from an honest man.

"In his autobiography, “Without Walls,” and on a 2002 Web profile, Randy said he enrolled at the former Lee College in Cleveland, Tenn., and earned a bachelor’s degree in ministerial studies and a master’s in divinity. He said he was awarded an honorary doctorate in humane letters from Virginia State University in Petersburg, Va. Representatives from both schools said he did not receive degrees there, though Lee confirmed he took two classes. According to documents Randy gave the Tribune in April, he received a doctorate of humane letters from Commonwealth Assistance Foundation Institute of International Studies in Alexandria, Va., in May 1993. An in-depth Internet search found no mention of the school. There is no telephone listing for it. Randy does have a bachelor’s degree in theology from the International Bible Institute and Seminary, a correspondence school in Orlando. .
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