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Old 07-17-2007, 03:28 PM
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Do you believe in modesty

To read some of the "arguments" (for lack of a better word and one that won't get me in trouble", one might be led to believe some where don't believe in modesty at all.

Should we dress and act modestly? And if so, how do you go about deciding what is modest and what is not?
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Old 07-17-2007, 03:32 PM
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To read some of the "arguments" (for lack of a better word and one that won't get me in trouble", one might be led to believe some where don't believe in modesty at all.

Should we dress and act modestly? And if so, how do you go about deciding what is modest and what is not?
I think the denominal world has a pretty good handle on modesty. They don't stigmatize normal behavior, and thus remove the adrenalin rush that comes with doing normal every day things in our Western culture.

What, does the church actually believe that by regulating morality they are keeping men from sin?

Don't think so.
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Old 07-17-2007, 03:38 PM
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I think the denominal world has a pretty good handle on modesty. They don't stigmatize normal behavior, and thus remove the adrenalin rush that comes with doing normal every day things in our Western culture.

What, does the church actually believe that by regulating morality they are keeping men from sin?

Don't think so.
Since I don't have a clue what you just wrote I am going to have to ask some questions.

What is denominal world? How do they have a handle on modesty and how do you know? What is normal behavior and is it biblically sanctioned? Fornication is normal behavior for some.

How does not stigmatizing normal behavior remove an adrenalin ruhs that comes with doing normal everyday things? What normal every day things usually generate an adrenalin rush in your estimation?

Do you or do you not believe in modesty? By your answer its' hard to tell, particularly the last one. That's like saying the church can't prevent sin by preaching against sin....
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Old 07-17-2007, 03:47 PM
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Since I don't have a clue what you just wrote I am going to have to ask some questions.

What is denominal world? How do they have a handle on modesty and how do you know? What is normal behavior and is it biblically sanctioned? Fornication is normal behavior for some.

How does not stigmatizing normal behavior remove an adrenalin ruhs that comes with doing normal everyday things? What normal every day things usually generate an adrenalin rush in your estimation?

Do you or do you not believe in modesty? By your answer its' hard to tell, particularly the last one. That's like saying the church can't prevent sin by preaching against sin....

Here ya go. Going to a movie. I have gone to movies with Apostolic people and they are so nervous, they are looking around, they feel like they are doing something adventerous full of danger, because if someone from the church would see them! Oh Indiana Jones look out!
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Old 07-17-2007, 03:51 PM
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Here ya go. Going to a movie. I have gone to movies with Apostolic people and they are so nervous, they are looking around, they feel like they are doing something adventerous full of danger, because if someone from the church would see them! Oh Indiana Jones look out!
OH, so you are not Apostolic? Im still not sure how that pertains to the topic of modesty or your adrenaline rush theory or even how that is normal behavior.
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Old 07-17-2007, 03:54 PM
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OH, so you are not Apostolic? Im still not sure how that pertains to the topic of modesty or your adrenaline rush theory or even how that is normal behavior.
Because of this stigma, our kids can't make the determination between what is sin and what is normal behavior. And I am not talking about your polarized statement that IMMORALITY to some is considered normal behavior in mainstream religion.
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Old 07-17-2007, 04:17 PM
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I think the denominal world has a pretty good handle on modesty. They don't stigmatize normal behavior, and thus remove the adrenalin rush that comes with doing normal every day things in our Western culture.

What, does the church actually believe that by regulating morality they are keeping men from sin?

Don't think so.

I need to wipe the coffee off my screen. Dude you don’t get out much do you?

I work in a secular job. I work in a white collar environment. I work with guys all day that make comments about what one lady or another is wearing. This idea that Apostolics get hot under the collar because we "aren’t used" to seeing women wearing pants is just STUPID.

It is very insulting to say the least. The very idea that either the denominal world (what ever that is) or secular business world has a handle on "modesty" and should be the Modal we Apostlics use is just wrong, inane, asinine. Do I need to continue??
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I think the denominal world has a pretty good handle on modesty. They don't stigmatize normal behavior, and thus remove the adrenalin rush that comes with doing normal every day things in our Western culture.

What, does the church actually believe that by regulating morality they are keeping men from sin?

Don't think so.
Is this the world you're writing about?

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Who is arguing against modesty? Some of us just believe that modesty is the same for men and women and not a double-standard.
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Old 07-17-2007, 04:09 PM
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Who is arguing against modesty? Some of us just believe that modesty is the same for men and women and not a double-standard.
Great, and because men have more stuff below the waist and wearing pants would show that off, according to you, you suggest men and women should wear robes in order to be modest?
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