Two Former Military AFF Members See Trump's Rhetor

[Jermyn Davidson]

as a threat.

We have both been against Trump from the beginning.

Some of you guys elected him anyway.

Later on, don't say we didn't warn you.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

as a threat.

We have both been against Trump from the beginning.

Some of you guys elected him anyway.

Later on, don't say we didn't you.

There are really only a couple of Trumpsters on here. A few more voted more against Hillary than Trump. There are a few of us who have warned against Trump for months.

In regards to the former Military part ... don't you know Trump knows more than all the Generals?!

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

as a threat.

We have both been against Trump from the beginning.

Some of you guys elected him anyway.

Later on, don't say we didn't you.

Oh yes , the man who will keep us out of these needless wars is such a threat.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Originalist

Oh yes , the man who will keep us out of these needless wars is such a threat.

If you only think of wars as a threat, you're sadly naïve.

The biggest threat of the Trump administration is his disdain for the First Amendment right of free speech and free press. The next biggest threat is not only a fault of Trump's administration, but also the GOP in general -- civil liberties are being tossed in favor of unfettered surveillance of American citizens. Trump's choice for AG and CIA Director are in favor of warrantless wiretaps, PRISM, indefinite detentions of American citizens without charges or a trial and civil asset forfeiture.

Trump's thin-skin and knee-jerk reactions will test your claim that he will keep us out of needless wars.

[Praxeas]

HRC should have taken a cue from Bill and spoken out on Obamacare

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by n david

If you only think of wars as a threat, you're sadly naïve.

The biggest threat of the Trump administration is his disdain for the First Amendment right of free speech and free press. The next biggest threat is not only a fault of Trump's administration, but also the GOP in general -- civil liberties are being tossed in favor of unfettered surveillance of American citizens. Trump's choice for AG and CIA Director are in favor of warrantless wiretaps, PRISM, indefinite detentions of American citizens without charges or a trial and civil asset forfeiture.

Trump's thin-skin and knee-jerk reactions will test your claim that he will keep us out of needless wars.

The only thing knee-jerk is this post. Every day the narrative of Trump you cite fades away.


And I mentioned NEEDLESS wars. A war with Russia over Ukraine or Syria is needless.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Originalist

The only thing knee-jerk is this post.

Yes, your posts are typically knee-jerk. Mostly the latter part.

Originally Posted by Originalist

And I mentioned NEEDLESS wars. A war with Russia over Ukraine or Syria is needless.

I expected you to define the term. And if Trump does go to war, I'm sure you will claim it's not needless.

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by n david

Yes, your posts are typically knee-jerk. Mostly the latter part.


I expected you to define the term. And if Trump does go to war, I'm sure you will claim it's not needless.

Oh yeah. No matter what I will humbly submit to the will of my master. Gotcha.

Typical NDavid. Irrational and presumptive.

[aegsm76]

Originally Posted by n david

If you only think of wars as a threat, you're sadly naïve.

The biggest threat of the Trump administration is his disdain for the First Amendment right of free speech and free press. The next biggest threat is not only a fault of Trump's administration, but also the GOP in general -- civil liberties are being tossed in favor of unfettered surveillance of American citizens. Trump's choice for AG and CIA Director are in favor of warrantless wiretaps, PRISM, indefinite detentions of American citizens without charges or a trial and civil asset forfeiture.

Trump's thin-skin and knee-jerk reactions will test your claim that he will keep us out of needless wars.

I believe Trump does not have disdain for either free speech or free press. I do believe that he dislikes the press and is irritated that they can say whatever they want regarding public figures and get away with it.
In that regard, I believe he wants to make the press more accountable and more like the press in England.
I am opposed to that and believe that members of his administration will be able to persuade him to leave well enough alone.
Insofar as to civil liberties, this is closely tied to immigration in my opinion.
The reason that we have had both parties favor curtailing these is due to the number of potential terrorists we have in our country.
I am convinced we are under far more scrutiny than we would even believe.
I am also convinced that this scrutiny has thwarted terrorist plans/plots.
If we will correct our immigration policy and enforce our laws by ejecting or refusing entry to possible terrorists, we will be able to rachet down the scrutiny and "restore" these civil liberties.

[n david]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

I believe Trump does not have disdain for either free speech or free press. I do believe that he dislikes the press and is irritated that they can say whatever they want regarding public figures and get away with it.
In that regard, I believe he wants to make the press more accountable and more like the press in England. I am opposed to that and believe that members of his administration will be able to persuade him to leave well enough alone.

This isn't England. And it's not as though he's angry about the press lying about him. Have you done a search of Trump's past lawsuit threats? You should look it up sometime. His tweet about flag burning should be alarming. Trump is similar to obama with regards to press: they're useful idiots and he'll do what he can to go around them.

Originally Posted by aegsm76

Insofar as to civil liberties, this is closely tied to immigration in my opinion.
The reason that we have had both parties favor curtailing these is due to the number of potential terrorists we have in our country.
I am convinced we are under far more scrutiny than we would even believe.
I am also convinced that this scrutiny has thwarted terrorist plans/plots.
If we will correct our immigration policy and enforce our laws by ejecting or refusing entry to possible terrorists, we will be able to rachet down the scrutiny and "restore" these civil liberties.

Have you tried putting toothpaste back inside the tube? That's what you're suggesting here. I wish it were that simple and we could trust our leaders to do this. Unfortunately, this will never happen. No Admin or Congress will willingly give up the power they now have over the citizens.