The Bible is the word of God

mfblume · #1 11-14-2016, 09:51 AM

Since the Bible is the formation of scripture into a book form, and since scripture makes us wise to salvation, while truth makes us wise to salvation, we see scripture equated with truth.

And the word of God is truth. So Scripture, or the bible, is the word of God.

And to say that men who wrote the word of God into letter form have diminished from the actual word, seeing as God's breath cannot be put on paper by ink, is moot. God promised those who seek with their hearts will have His Spirit breathe into them while they read.

Hence... the following cannot be denied.

Jesus said the Father's word was truth.

John 17:17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.

He prayed for the apostles to be sanctified in that verse. And we must believe the truth to be saved.

2 Thessalonians 2:13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:

The Spirit sanctified the apostles and the word of truth is God's word.

After saying the word of God is truth (John 17:17) and then reading we are saved through BELIEF OF THE TRUTH (2 Thess 2:13), we realize that we must believe the word of God to be saved.

We then read the scriptures are for salvation.

2 Timothy 3:15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

So the scripture teaches us faith in Christ, and that saves us. So, if we are saved by belief of the truth, and the scriptures teach us salvation, then the scriptures are truth. This, in turn, means that the scriptures are the word of God.

SUMMARY:

1. God's word is truth. (John 17:17)
2. We are saved by belief of the truth. (2 Thess 2:13)
3. Scriptures teach us how to be saved. (2 Tim 3:15)
4. So Scriptures are the truth, and the word of God is truth.
5. That can only mean scriptures are the word of God.

Now, Peter for whom Jesus prayed to be sanctified by the truth (which is God's word - John 17:17) said that Paul's words are twisted by some like the OTHER SCRIPTURES, putting Paul's writings on par with scripture that saves and is God's word.

That is why Paul had the right to say His writings are the commandments of God.

1 Corinthians 14:37 If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.

And anyone who thinks they're spiritual better agree his writings are the commandments of God. Those who disagree are not spiritual, but liars.

KeptByTheWord · #2 11-14-2016, 11:20 AM

Amen!

Esaias · #3 11-14-2016, 12:14 PM

The "word of God" is what God spoke. If what he spoke is written down, then that writing is "the word of God".

mfblume · #4 11-14-2016, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Esaias

The "word of God" is what God spoke. If what he spoke is written down, then that writing is "the word of God".

Simple enough.

Evang.Benincasa · #5 11-14-2016, 06:28 PM

Wow that was an easy thread.

Thank you Brother Blume.

Theophilus · #6 11-14-2016, 10:08 PM

There's a lot that could be said about God's revelation to us in Scripture. Of course, the fact that God, in any way, chooses to reveal himself is amazing to think about.

I would argue the fact that he has revealed himself to us in Scripture is one of the greatest attestations of his divine grace. And we need this grace, because unaided human reason can only go so far.

I agree with what you've said, I would only add that the truths you've spoken are truly astonishing, and ought to lead us to have immense thankfulness toward God.

mfblume · #7 11-14-2016, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Theophilus

I would argue the fact that he has revealed himself to us in Scripture is one of the greatest attestations of his divine grace. And we need this grace, because unaided human reason can only go so far.

Powerful point! Without a standard, we;re too susceptible to so many human variables that will mess us up with truth. We need something of the Word in tangible form for that reason.

KeptByTheWord · #8 11-14-2016, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Theophilus

There's a lot that could be said about God's revelation to us in Scripture. Of course, the fact that God, in any way, chooses to reveal himself is amazing to think about.

I would argue the fact that he has revealed himself to us in Scripture is one of the greatest attestations of his divine grace. And we need this grace, because unaided human reason can only go so far.

I agree with what you've said, I would only add that the truths you've spoken are truly astonishing, and ought to lead us to have immense thankfulness toward God.

Very well said, thank you!

shazeep · #9 11-15-2016, 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Theophilus

There's a lot that could be said about God's revelation to us in Scripture. Of course, the fact that God, in any way, chooses to reveal himself is amazing to think about.

I would argue the fact that he has revealed himself to us in Scripture is one of the greatest attestations of his divine grace. And we need this grace, because unaided human reason can only go so far.

I would only add that the truths you've spoken are truly astonishing, and ought to lead us to have immense thankfulness toward God.

nice

votivesoul · #10 11-16-2016, 12:07 AM

To Mike, or others who would like to respond...

Would the idea of the Logos as presented in John 1:1, that was with God, and was God, and later, was made flesh, is this the Bible, too, strictly speaking?

I mean, did God create all things that are made through (by) the Bible?

Or is there something more to the Logos/Word, something that transcends the Bible? What I mean is: God is a person, the Bible is a thing. Surely, we do not equate the two?

God is everlasting. Before any text of the Bible was penned, He existed. While only portions of the Bible were first being written, He existed. While different parts of the Bible were being argued over in the different fights for establishing the canon, God existed. After every last Bible ever made turns to ash and powder in some distant future, He will exist still.

God's "Word" forever settled in heaven is merely the Bible? Or is it the Bible, plus something else?

Can the Word of the Lord come to a person, as it did to the holy prophets of old, and be given to a person today, even if the "word" that comes to them cannot be found in any verse of the Bible?

As an example, Agabus predicted a famine/dearth, and it came to pass. Could the "Word of the Lord" come to you, let's say, and tell you that some unforeseen natural disaster was going to badly affect Canada, and it come to pass, without there actually being a single verse in the Bible about Canada?

If not, why not?

If yes, doesn't that mean that the "Word of God", while being Bible, is also something greater than the Bible?

Thanks,

Aaron