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Old 03-23-2016, 05:49 PM
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Where's The Muslim Outrage?

Once again, no condemnations, no protests in the streets condemning terrorism. Where are the statements from heads of state in predominantly Muslim countries? Where are the Islamic religious leaders calling on their fellow Muslims to not accept such interpretations of the Koran?

As always---tacit approval by their silence and lack of high profile public condemnations.

A high percentage of Muslims are in agreement with Jihadists.
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Old 03-23-2016, 08:52 PM
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Re: Where's The Muslim Outrage?

Well there you have it.
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Old 03-23-2016, 09:54 PM
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Re: Where's The Muslim Outrage?

Hmmm... These all say that ISIS is not Islam, that Islam is a religion of peace.

The problem is you cannot separate Muhammad from Islam. He was a murderer who sanctioned assassinations because he did not like people talking about him.

His "companions" were worse. They invaded the world around them slaughtering all those who refused to be subservient to them. This was after the Ridda Wars. Those were the battles fought after Muhammad died. Many who had followed him went back to their own way of living. Abu Bakr was having none of it and called them apostates and slaughtered them if they did not recognize him and pay their zakat. Real peaceful... Murder apostates. Murder anyone who insults Islam by telling the truth. Murder the infidels and rape the women. Muhammad did this; therefore, it is Islam.

Those who try to distance themselves from this violence should be applauded and encouraged to continue. However, they should not lie about Islam and its bloody prophet and history. They should accept the truth, then they may have some credibility. A true dialogue can only take place when they acknowledge truth.
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Old 03-24-2016, 11:37 AM
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Hmmm... These all say that ISIS is not Islam, that Islam is a religion of peace.

The problem is you cannot separate Muhammad from Islam. He was a murderer who sanctioned assassinations because he did not like people talking about him.

His "companions" were worse. They invaded the world around them slaughtering all those who refused to be subservient to them. This was after the Ridda Wars. Those were the battles fought after Muhammad died. Many who had followed him went back to their own way of living. Abu Bakr was having none of it and called them apostates and slaughtered them if they did not recognize him and pay their zakat. Real peaceful... Murder apostates. Murder anyone who insults Islam by telling the truth. Murder the infidels and rape the women. Muhammad did this; therefore, it is Islam.

Those who try to distance themselves from this violence should be applauded and encouraged to continue. However, they should not lie about Islam and its bloody prophet and history. They should accept the truth, then they may have some credibility. A true dialogue can only take place when they acknowledge truth.
Well, there you have it.
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Old 03-24-2016, 12:31 PM
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Hmmm... These all say that ISIS is not Islam, that Islam is a religion of peace.

The problem is you cannot separate Muhammad from Islam. He was a murderer who sanctioned assassinations because he did not like people talking about him.

His "companions" were worse. They invaded the world around them slaughtering all those who refused to be subservient to them. This was after the Ridda Wars. Those were the battles fought after Muhammad died. Many who had followed him went back to their own way of living. Abu Bakr was having none of it and called them apostates and slaughtered them if they did not recognize him and pay their zakat. Real peaceful... Murder apostates. Murder anyone who insults Islam by telling the truth. Murder the infidels and rape the women. Muhammad did this; therefore, it is Islam.

Those who try to distance themselves from this violence should be applauded and encouraged to continue. However, they should not lie about Islam and its bloody prophet and history. They should accept the truth, then they may have some credibility. A true dialogue can only take place when they acknowledge truth.
The truth according to who? Who are you to tell them the "TRUTH" of their religion? Like I said, Muhammad sounds like he falls right in line with Joshua, Saul, David ect...
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Old 03-24-2016, 12:55 PM
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The truth according to who? Who are you to tell them the "TRUTH" of their religion? Like I said, Muhammad sounds like he falls right in line with Joshua, Saul, David ect...
FALSE moral equivalency.

The "truth" is found in their own holy writings.
Which of the men that you mentioned married and consummated that marriage to a 9 year old girl?

Which one argued they were the only prophet of God?
Which one sanctioned lying?
Which one sanctioned adultery?
Which one sanctioned rape?
Which one sanctioned assassinations?
Which one imposed their religion upon the whole world and told their followers to fight until it is established completely?
Which one claimed to be sinless?

The list goes on and on. Islamic religious writings confirm Muhammad did all these things. THAT is truth.
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Old 03-24-2016, 12:27 PM
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So the questions that needs to be answered is, are the majority of Muslims that are peaceful following Islam or not? The GOD of the bible would be proud of some of the things that Muhammad is accused of doing. Whats the difference in the things Muhammad did and the leaders of the Israelite's during their conquest of the Promised Land? Do I need to list those things?
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Old 03-24-2016, 12:48 PM
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So the questions that needs to be answered is, are the majority of Muslims that are peaceful following Islam or not? The GOD of the bible would be proud of some of the things that Muhammad is accused of doing. Whats the difference in the things Muhammad did and the leaders of the Israelite's during their conquest of the Promised Land? Do I need to list those things?
Yes you need to document your assertions.

FTR the God has the right to judge the world - He created it.

He judged the world with a flood.
He judged the world by the confusion of language.
He judged Sodom.

In each of these cases He directly judged them.
During the Promised Land conquest He did not allow Israel in until the time for judgment had come:
(Gen 15:16 KJV) But in the fourth generation they shall come hither again: for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet full.

BTW This was LIMITED to a small area of land.
It was also an indirect judgment of God by using Israel as the agency of judgment.
Moses was from God - the one true God.


Muhammad desired to impose it upon the entire world.
Muhammad is NOT from God.
His actions are NOT judgments from God.
He was a pedophile cult leader that demanded blind and absolute obedience. No one was or is allowed to question him.
He sanctioned rape.
He sanctioned lying.
He sanctioned murder.
he imposed his religion on others.
He sanctioned spousal abuse.
He sanctioned polygamy.
He set himself up as above the Islamic law.
he said he was sinless - perfect.
He setup an earthly kingdom.

The list goes on...

Have a nice day. After all I heard that the Jews blew up an airport in Brussels... Oh wait that was Muslims following the teachings of Muhammad.


http://pulse.ng/gist/sharia-law-brut...id4843236.html

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016...fghan-migrant/

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016...exploit-chaos/

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-n...d-isis-7618221

http://sputniknews.com/world/2016032...haria-law.html

http://www.newsweek.com/british-stud...streets-440242

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/03/be...d-were-ignored



BUDAKA, Uganda (Morning Star News) — Threats from hard-line Muslims and the rape of her 13-year-old daughter forced a Christian mother and her five children to flee their village in eastern Uganda last week, sources said.
http://christiannews.net/2016/03/23/...-threats-rape/


http://newsweekme.com/daesh-claims-k...son-to-others/


Australian Muslims may resort to violence if headscarf laws not changed, SA imam says.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-03-2...d-imam/7268326


the list goes on and on and on TODAY not thousands of years AGO.
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Old 03-24-2016, 12:29 PM
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Re: Where's The Muslim Outrage?

The difference?
That was in the past and this is happening today.
The difference?
Kill your enemies.
Love your enemies.
The difference?
Rape women to convert them to Islam.
He that looks on a woman to lust...
I could go on and on.
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