School of Prophets Conference

Charlie Brown · #1 06-09-2007, 11:48 AM

I picked up a Herald, something I haven't done in at least a year, and was browsing a Special Issue recently put out. I noticed that there is a "School of Prophets" conference going to be held in Stockton at Christian Life on July 23-27.

The listed preachers are Nathaniel Haney, Eli Lopez, Lee Stoneking, John Arcovio, Matt Maddix, Anthony Romo, and Ronnie Mullings.

My question is simple. Where are the Prophets?? Did they forget to list them?

Monkeyman · #2 06-09-2007, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Charlie Brown

I picked up a Herald, something I haven't done in at least a year, and was browsing a Special Issue recently put out. I noticed that there is a "School of Prophets" conference going to be held in Stockton at Christian Life on July 23-27.

The listed preachers are Nathaniel Haney, Eli Lopez, Lee Stoneking, John Arcovio, Matt Maddix, Anthony Romo, and Ronnie Mullings.

My question is simple. Where are the Prophets?? Did they forget to list them?

This has been something that CLC has done for years(at least early 90s if not late 80s). There has been more done for young men at this retreat then you will probably do in a hundred years...take your cheap backseat potshots elsewhere...blockhead

Charlie Brown · #3 06-09-2007, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Monkeyman

This has been something that CLC has done for years(at least early 90s if not late 80s). There has been more done for young men at this retreat then you will probably do in a hundred years...take your cheap backseat potshots elsewhere...blockhead

I did not advertise a School of Prophets Conference, so I am not the focus of this thread. You are just trying to project the focus off of the fact that none of the men listed are really prophets. Not saying they are not good men, but they are not prophets. I would say it is a case of false advertisement.

CC1 · #4 06-09-2007, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Charlie Brown

I did not advertise a School of Prophets Conference, so I am not the focus of this thread. You are just trying to project the focus off of the fact that none of the men listed are really prophets. Not saying they are not good men, but they are not prophets. I would say it is a case of false advertisement.

Out of curiosity who do you think are prophets?

Neck · #5 06-09-2007, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Monkeyman

This has been something that CLC has done for years(at least early 90s if not late 80s). There has been more done for young men at this retreat then you will probably do in a hundred years...take your cheap backseat potshots elsewhere...blockhead

I know one thing. The office of Prophet will never be printed on your cloak...

Monkeyman · #6 06-11-2007, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Neckstadt

I know one thing. The office of Prophet will never be printed on your cloak...

It was a response to defend friends...thanks for the low blow, btw, I have never aspired that position, I'm happy to serve how He has asked.
Since you like to talk about your dad a lot, here's my story..see my avatar? Thats MY dad, a successfull businessman who was the FIRST to take out a personal loan to pay for the first CLC building. After him, others lined up and through great sacrifice, built a MIGHTY church. That is him singing at the groundbreaking ceremony. He also donated the labor and services to put in the first parking lot, which was at that time a huge sacrifice...you would know if you have seen it.....for these and many other reasons I will defend CLC, their pastors and their motives. Have they made mistakes? Probably. Who hasn't...well except for Elder Epley's prophets, he he

Pastor Keith · #7 06-09-2007, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Charlie Brown

I picked up a Herald, something I haven't done in at least a year, and was browsing a Special Issue recently put out. I noticed that there is a "School of Prophets" conference going to be held in Stockton at Christian Life on July 23-27.

The listed preachers are Nathaniel Haney, Eli Lopez, Lee Stoneking, John Arcovio, Matt Maddix, Anthony Romo, and Ronnie Mullings.

My question is simple. Where are the Prophets?? Did they forget to list them?

I have a mixed review of this conference, as being one of the founding members and participants it did me much good in my youth. We would gather in the Mountains with the likes of Morton Bustard who despite what some on here think of him, influenced me to seek these gifts of God.

But it has gotten away from the simple, equipping, mentoring, create an environment for spiritual activity to the usual preaching conference where the attendees come and now watch the experts do their thing.

They will leave feeling energized, tell others that they heard great preaching, exhortation but leave little equipped or exercised their gifting.

Sad because it could be much more...

By the way Arcovio is a prophet, though his misses have been more highlighted than his successes. In my opinion he is the real deal.

"GL" · #8 06-09-2007, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by keith4him

...By the way .......is a prophet, though his misses have been more highlighted than his successes. In my opinion he is the real deal.

The test of a true prophet...

Deut 18:20-22 But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in My name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that prophet shall die.' 21 And if you say in your heart, 'How shall we know the word which the Lord has not spoken?' — 22 when a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the thing does not happen or come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously; you shall not be afraid of him. (NKJV)

Pastor Keith · #9 06-09-2007, 03:07 PM

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The test of a true prophet...

Deut 18:20-22 But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in My name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that prophet shall die.' 21 And if you say in your heart, 'How shall we know the word which the Lord has not spoken?' — 22 when a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the thing does not happen or come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously; you shall not be afraid of him. (NKJV)

If this is the standard for NT prophets, then there isnt one alive. I disagree with this being the standard for NT prophets, this was the OT economy and the fact that the prophet spoke directly from God on the national stage. Also this a reference to the ulitmate prophet Jesus Christ.

I recommend reading Grudem's discourse on this theme.

"GL" · #10 06-09-2007, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by keith4him

If this is the standard for NT prophets, then there isnt one alive...

Wow, amazing that you would say that. When someone says "thus sayeth the Lord," when God didn't, I think it is fairly serious.

Is there mercy today? Certainly. Is there still a standard? I believe so.

As for reading the specific discourse you mentioned, I'm sticking with the Bible on this one.