Maybe I'm Too Harsh

I guess since I still believe that holiness is essential (and biblical), then I am a little too harsh towards those who see it otherwise.
Since I still believe that ONLY one God believers will go to heaven (again it sure comes out of the Bible that way), then I am a little too harsh against those who propagate something else as true.
I do not believe that we should preach in other denominations nor allow them into our pulpits to preach. That IMO is inviting major trouble and is obviously already spreading mass confusion among what used to be the ranks of apostolics.

I am saddened by many posts here that spurn the old ways for what is being called modern outreach.

We can thank many of our fine leaders(?) for these things.

Church, you may want to reconsider your doings. You may not like the conservative voice for it is a voice that does not allow all the worldly vices that those who have been "set free" allow.

Which one of you can truly say that you live a more godly or holy life now that you have been "liberated"?
Which one of you lives closer to God than ever before since your new found freedom?

Just a thought to consider: if you maintain the same distance from the world that you always have, somewhere along the line you will accept things that you used to once shun for the world is continually moving further from God. The mentality of maintaining the same distance also means that you are moving further from God.

This is my own point of view. You may feel free to trash it if you wish, but it doesn't change the truth being presented.

[ThePastorsCoach]

Originally Posted by NobodyImportant

I guess since I still believe that holiness is essential (and biblical), then I am a little too harsh towards those who see it otherwise.
Since I still believe that ONLY one God believers will go to heaven (again it sure comes out of the Bible that way), then I am a little too harsh against those who propagate something else as true.
I do not believe that we should preach in other denominations nor allow them into our pulpits to preach. That IMO is inviting major trouble and is obviously already spreading mass confusion among what used to be the ranks of apostolics.

I am saddened by many posts here that spurn the old ways for what is being called modern outreach.

We can thank many of our fine leaders(?) for these things.

Church, you may want to reconsider your doings. You may not like the conservative voice for it is a voice that does not allow all the worldly vices that those who have been "set free" allow.

Which one of you can truly say that you live a more godly or holy life now that you have been "liberated"?
Which one of you lives closer to God than ever before since your new found freedom?

Just a thought to consider: if you maintain the same distance from the world that you always have, somewhere along the line you will accept things that you used to once shun for the world is continually moving further from God. The mentality of maintaining the same distance also means that you are moving further from God.

This is my own point of view. You may feel free to trash it if you wish, but it doesn't change the truth being presented.

This post does NOT reflect "the truth". This is my point of view!

Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop

This post does NOT reflect "the truth". This is my point of view!

Well, then according to your statement, truth seems to be relative.
I disagree if that is what you mean.

NobodyImportant, I respect your views - but different things work for different folks. As long as I don't comprimise the gospel when I go to preach for another denomination, I do not see how anyone could condemn me for going.

[Sam]

Hey, Forgiven,
I appreciate what you said in that post.

[rgcraig]

Just one question. Who is it exactly that believe in more than one God?

[CC1]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

Just one question. Who is it exactly that believe in more than one God?

C'mon Renda, don't you know trinitarians believe in "3 gods"? Didn't you hear that preached enough times in your UPC days?

I think people like NI are engaging the same strategy Democrats do in politics. If you say something enough times loudly enough people will beieve it no matter how wrong it is.

Originally Posted by CC1

C'mon Renda, don't you know trinitarians believe in "3 gods"? Didn't you hear that preached enough times in your UPC days?

I think people like NI are engaging the same strategy Democrats do in politics. If you say something enough times loudly enough people will beieve it no matter how wrong it is.

Well, that may be true to some, but when I was a trinitarian, I firmly believed in three. It is what I was taught in the charismatic church.
Many out there do still believe this, but there is a growing awareness of oneness that is happening.

Many here have equated my statements with standards, but I did not mention standards as I recall. I mentioned HOLINESS. Yet, the attack came out of standards.

Why is it that the liberal mindset automatically associates standards with holiness and cannot see the real meaning behind the words?

I would not suggest that everyone on here is liberal. I am ultra-con, yes. That should be fairly evident, but it doesn't make me arrogant to state how I feel. Does it make you arrogant to state how you feel when it is in disagreement with someone else? Hardly.

If this is an open forum that allows for dissemination of thoughts and ideas, why is it that I cannot state my own personal thoughts (which I did clarify in my original statement) without getting attacked?

Is it because holiness lifestyle is on trial here?
Is it because someone who refuses to bow to the ways of the world that are creeping into the church must be silenced?

If so, why? Why is it that I cannot make a conservative post and be allowed to do so without the rancor?

Does it protest things? Sure it does. Does it oppose things? Sure it does. Is it the opposition to worldliness that this board is so afraid of hearing voiced?

Some here feel that my attitude is wrong. Explain to me how it is wrong for me to have a conviction and stand by it regardless of who opposes it.
I believe that I stated originally that it was my point of view.
Why is that so wrong?

If you can have your liberal view posted, then does that mean that the conservative voice is not welcome here? (I think Felicity answered this and I appreciated her answer. At least it came across as unbiased.)

[SDG]

NI ... are you Concerned "Compassionate" Conservative Apostolic???....

[Sam]

Isn't that stop sign the logo for the new UPC California Schism headquarters?