Identity of the Antichrist

[Sam]

I wasn't sure where to post this. I found an Eschatology subject in the Debate Section but I don't want to make this a debate.

I realize we have several different opinions among us about things like the rapure; pre-, mid-, and post-trib, the Antichrist, etc.

This past Wednesday night I taught the midweek Bible Study. I taught on Psalm 2 and Daniel 2. I personally believe in pre-trib and that an individual known as "the lawless one," or "the man of sin," or "the Antichrist" will arise after the rapture so of course I taught it that way. I acknowledged that this was my opinion and that Christians have varying views on it.

There was brief discussion on the number 666 and how this might identify the Antichrist. I mentioned 3 different views:

1. At one time Bro. S.G. Norris taught that Benito Mussolini was the antichrist. Of course he was not still teaching that when I attended his Bible School in 1956/1957. A chant given to and received by Mussolini was "VV IL DVCE." If we take the numerical value of those letters in Latin numbers we have:
V = 5
V = 5

I = 1
L = 50

D = 500
V = 5
C = 100
E = no value
total = 666

After attending ABI in 1956/1957 I moved to the Cincinnati area and attended the First Apostolic Church where Bro. Frank E. Curts was pastor. He and Bro. Norris had a history that went way back to the church in Columbus, OH and to the old PAJC. He told me chuckling that he had told Bro. Norris, "Well, they just dragged out your Antichrist and strung him up," to which Bro. Norris replied, "I wish I had that tract back."

[Sam]

The Antichrist (if there really is an individual antichrist) has been identified over the years as:

Nero
FDR
Hitler
Prince Charles
Henry Kissinger
Barack Obama and many others.

A common teaching is that the pope and the papacy is the antichrist because of the Latin title of the Pope, Vicarius Filii Dei, Vicar of the Son of God. If this is written out using the Latin form and assigning the Latin value to the numbers which have a Latin value we have:
V = 5
I = 1
C = 100
A = no value
R = no value
I = 1
V = 5
S = no value

F = no value
I = 1
L = 50
I = 1
I = 1

D = 500
E = no value
I = 1
total = 666

[Sam]

I also mentioned a more recent person who has been identified as the Antichrist. He is known as Cute Purple Dinosaur. If we follow the same logic and use the Latin numbers and their values we get:
C = 100
V = 5
T = no value
E = no value

P = no value
V = 5
R = no value
P = no value
L = 50
E = no value

D = 500
I = 1
N = no value
O = no value
S = no value
A = no value
V = 5
R = no value
total = 666

[scotty]

Originally Posted by Sam

I also mentioned a more recent person who has been identified as the Antichrist. He is known as Cute Purple Dinosaur. If we follow the same logic and use the Latin numbers and their values we get:
C = 100
V = 5
T = no value
E = no value

P = no value
V = 5
R = no value
P = no value
L = 50
E = no value

D = 500
I = 1
N = no value
O = no value
S = no value
A = no value
V = 5
R = no value
total = 666

Nope, he got took out in the other thread.

[bbyrd009]

Originally Posted by scotty

Nope, he got took out in the other thread.

Cute purple dinosaur? Barney? What?

[Michael The Disciple]

An antichrist is one who denies Jesus is the Christ. If we define "the Christ" by Isaiah 9:6 today it would fit all Churches who deny the Oneness message.

The "beast" of Revelation who forces all to worship himself seems to be a great warrior king according to Daniel 11. He will cause millions of people to be put to death. Worship him or die.

Satan will be on the Earth working with this man to deceive and intimidate entire nations. He will be the most sinister man who ever lived. He may be alive somewhere today.

If he comes to power in our lifetime we must stand ready to refuse his mark and bow down only to Yeshua the great God and our Savior. The beast is given power to overcome (by killing them) the saints for 42 months.

Their crime will be the testimony of Jesus and keeping his word.

[bbyrd009]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

An antichrist is one who denies Jesus is the Christ. If we define "the Christ" by Isaiah 9:6 today it would fit all Churches who deny the Oneness message.

The "beast" of Revelation who forces all to worship himself seems to be a great warrior king according to Daniel 11. He will cause millions of people to be put to death. Worship him or die.

Satan will be on the Earth working with this man to deceive and intimidate entire nations. He will be the most sinister man who ever lived. He may be alive somewhere today.

If he comes to power in our lifetime we must stand ready to refuse his mark and bow down only to Yeshua the great God and our Savior. The beast is given power to overcome (by killing them) the saints for 42 months.

Their crime will be the testimony of Jesus and keeping his word.

This post seems to indicate that...when all that happens, it will be obvious
to everyone, like, pardon me here, please get what I mean and not what I say, like it will be on Fox news that night? Um, @ "will be." You admit that it might be here right now, once, but this is mostly referred to (by you) as being in tomorrow. Possibly with good reason. Ty

[Michael The Disciple]

The Earth will be transformed into a planet of devil worshippers.
Rev. 13:4-9

13:4 They worshiped the dragon, because he gave his authority to the beast, and they worshiped the beast, saying, “Who is like the beast? Who is able to make war with him?” 13:5 A mouth speaking great things and blasphemy was given to him. Authority to make war for forty-two months was given to him. 13:6 He opened his mouth for blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his dwelling, those who dwell in heaven. 13:7 It was given to him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them. Authority over every tribe, people, language, and nation was given to him. 13:8 All who dwell on the earth will worship him, everyone whose name has not been written from the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb who has been killed. 13:9 If anyone has an ear, let him hear.

[Hoovie]

Is this like pin the tail on the Donkey?!?

[Michael The Disciple]

The Evil King Daniel 11

11:36 The king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvelous things against the God of gods; and he shall prosper until the indignation be accomplished; for that which is determined shall be done. 11:37 Neither shall he regard the gods of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god; for he shall magnify himself above all. Dan. 11:36-37

Paul sees the same thing.

2:1 Now, brothers, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and our gathering together to him, we ask you 2:2 not to be quickly shaken in your mind, nor yet be troubled, either by spirit, or by word, or by letter as from us, saying that the day of Christ had come. 2:3 Let no one deceive you in any way. For it will not be, unless the departure comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of destruction, 2:4 he who opposes and exalts himself against all that is called God or that is worshiped; so that he sits as God in the temple of God, setting himself up as God. 2:5 Don’t you remember that, when I was still with you, I told you these things? 2 Thess. 2:1-5