Any darkside of Charles Parham and Wiliam Branham?

[cyber_truth]

Can any relate darkside of Charles Fox Parham and William Branham?

Charles Fox Parham who was instrumental of the formation of Pentecostalism was charged of sodomy, how about William Branham?

[TGBTG]

Originally Posted by cyber_truth

Can any relate darkside the Charles Fox Parham and William Branham?

Charles Fox Parham who was instrumental of the formation of Pentecostalism was charged of sodomy, how about William Branham?

What's the point? Are to put men on a pedestal or defame them?

These guys have gone to their fate. Let's focus on Jesus Christ!

[cyber_truth]

Originally Posted by TGBTG

What's the point? Are to put men on a pedestal or defame them?

These guys have gone to their fate. Let's focus on Jesus Christ!

I did not put Parham into pedestal, but why then Branham accused of being a false teacher?

[TGBTG]

Originally Posted by cyber_truth

I did not put Parham into pedestal, but why then Branham accused of being a false teacher?

I did not say you put Parham on a pedestal. My point is both these men have gone to their fate.

What edification would result from the discussion of the darkside of Parham and Branham? That's all I'm saying!

[Dordrecht]

I know some "followers" of Branham and they seem to think they are the only people who are saved.
But hey.... there are some UPCI people who think the same thing.
I don't know much about Branham, except that that his followers declared he was a true prophet of God.

[cyber_truth]

Originally Posted by Dordrecht

I know some "followers" of Branham and they seem to think they are the only people who are saved.
But hey.... there are some UPCI people who think the same thing.
I don't know much about Branham, except that that his followers declared he was a true prophet of God.

So there's no reason to discreet the Branhams...

[samuelofisrael]

Originally Posted by cyber_truth

Can any relate darkside of Charles Fox Parham and William Branham?

Charles Fox Parham who was instrumental of the formation of Pentecostalism was charged of sodomy, how about William Branham?

Nothing of a perverse moral nature was ever leveled concerning Branham as it wasn't concerning Billy Graham. Both men were free of that sort of problem.

With Branham it was more the issue of "theology," his perception and belief that he was restoring the Word, meaning, he was the one who had been chosen to give us the correct understanding of the Scriptures. He as "the prophet" of the end time, the "Elijah" [4th appearing] to the church to straighten it out. He especially named the Pentecostals [Apostolics] to get it right.

He alone "had the Word and knew what to do with it." He was, after all, the "Laodicean Messenger" and the "vindicated prophet," so naturally anything he taught must be true. He also taught: 'no judging of prophets.' Which, had the tabernacle of his name done so, worlds of nonsense would have been avoided. But precept upon precept, line upon line, the errors grew, were allowed to stand until, there was no remedy.

Now, it's a full grown cult with mega millions of dollars flowing into the coffers. Big Timeism has overtaken the "little flock." Same old story.

Even so, come soon Lord Jesus.

[acerrak]

william seymore wouldnt even let Charles Fox Parham come preach at the asuza street revival

why

However, Seymour soon broke with Parham over his harsh criticism of the emotional worship at Asuza Street and the intermingling of whites and blacks in the services

As the focus of the movement moved from Parham to Seymour, Parham became resentful. His attacks on emerging leaders coupled with the allegations alienated him from much of the movement that he began. He became "an embarrassment" to a new movement which was trying to establish its credibility


while he may have had roots in the early development of pentacostalism, he did not approve much of asuza street.

[Sam]

In my opinion, Charles Parham and William Branham were men of God whom God used. God does not use perfect people because He doesn't have any perfect people to use. They both have "fulfilled their course" so let's let them rest in peace.

Whether we like it or not, they are part of our Apostolic/Pentecostal heritage.

[samuelofisrael]

Originally Posted by Sam

In my opinion, Charles Parham and William Branham were men of God whom God used. God does not use perfect people because He doesn't have any perfect people to use. They both have "fulfilled their course" so let's let them rest in peace.

Whether we like it or not, they are part of our Apostolic/Pentecostal heritage.

They are indeed part of the Pentecostal heritage. And yes, they have fulfilled their course. They are beyond debate at this time. Yet, there is a residual fall out that does not resonate as with other followings. Whether William was sincere or merely grossly deceived about issues, he did initiate a cult that has deceived multitiudes of persons. We might say, "we cannot lay this to his charge" as our explanation but I am not sure that is entirely true. The body of his teaching was decidedly one that pointed to himself if only obliquely at times but with the understanding ["if you're spiritual, you'll catch something"] he was indeed referencing himself.

We cannot determine destinies, it is impossible in this context, but we can and should determine correct Biblical Doctrine. Much of what Branham said in the latter phases of his ministry had no Biblical support. We had to take his word for it as the "vindicated prophet." That did [and does] work for many. It relieves them of the pain of thinking and praying and studying. If a "pope" has the answers, what need to study for oneself?

But, as you have written, they [he] has fulfilled his course and the words are engraved in stone as it were. Let the reader beware.

Shalom.

Even so, come soon Lord Jesus