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Old 05-10-2010, 02:46 PM
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Obama and His Entourage are Supposed to be Smart

A coffee drinking buddy of mine, an African American and a big supporter of BO, read in the NY Times the other day that W was writing a book about his years in the White House. Then he said, "Bush aint writin no book!" To which I replied, "Why do you say that?" He said "Bush aint smart enough to write no book! Somebody else is doin it for him."

I said, "He's not smart enough? You know he graduated from an Ivy League school." To which my friend said, "He only graduated because his daddy pulled strings for him so he could graduate."

I debated with him a little bit longer then I just gave up. How do you rationalize with someone who is being irrational?

The more I thought about it the more I pondered how that liberals use the same argument time and again. Republicans are stupid. Republicans are ignorant. Republicans have less intellectual heft than liberals and Democrats. Democrats are always so profoundly smart. Jimmy Carter was so intelligent. Bill Clinton was so brilliant. Barack Obama is nearly a genius.

I have a question: if BO and his entourage are so smart, how is it they wouldn't even pass a high school level economics exam? I mean if you were really smart wouldn't you think that you could figure out that we can't spend like we're spending, we can't tax like we're being taxed, we can't keep borrowing at the rate we're borrowing and we can't keep printing money like we're printing money and think that there's no end? Most elementary students know the 1-2=-1. Evidently these mental giants have a bad memory and simply forgot what they learned in the 2nd grade.
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Old 05-10-2010, 03:00 PM
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Re: Obama and His Entourage are Supposed to be Sma

Nothing new here. Talk Radio opener and a huge straw man (economics = political philosophy) Nice.
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Old 05-11-2010, 08:07 AM
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Re: Obama and His Entourage are Supposed to be Sma

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Nothing new here. Talk Radio opener and a huge straw man (economics = political philosophy) Nice.
Were you being sarcastic? One's economic philosophy will greatly influence their political philosophy.

Consider the importance of economics to political philosophy by looking at BHO's chief economic advisor - Lawrence Summers...

Summers was forced to resign from his post as president of Harvard University due to a no confidence vote that was instigated in part by his involvement in a conflict of interest case whereby he personally profited by using Harvard's connections with USAID and the privatization of Russian state owned businesses. Harvard was fined over $26 million dollars and Summers was dinged $3.5 million personally.

He and his wife both avoided jail time by paying up. Now, he's running the country's economy.

I think that's a clear case of how one's own economic philosophy (personal greed) can influence their political philosophy (manipulating university and gov't agencies to further one's own personal greed).
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Old 05-10-2010, 05:04 PM
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A coffee drinking buddy of mine, an African American and a big supporter of BO, read in the NY Times the other day that W was writing a book about his years in the White House. Then he said, "Bush aint writin no book!" To which I replied, "Why do you say that?" He said "Bush aint smart enough to write no book! Somebody else is doin it for him."

I said, "He's not smart enough? You know he graduated from an Ivy League school." To which my friend said, "He only graduated because his daddy pulled strings for him so he could graduate."

I debated with him a little bit longer then I just gave up. How do you rationalize with someone who is being irrational?

The more I thought about it the more I pondered how that liberals use the same argument time and again. Republicans are stupid. Republicans are ignorant. Republicans have less intellectual heft than liberals and Democrats. Democrats are always so profoundly smart. Jimmy Carter was so intelligent. Bill Clinton was so brilliant. Barack Obama is nearly a genius.

I have a question: if BO and his entourage are so smart, how is it they wouldn't even pass a high school level economics exam? I mean if you were really smart wouldn't you think that you could figure out that we can't spend like we're spending, we can't tax like we're being taxed, we can't keep borrowing at the rate we're borrowing and we can't keep printing money like we're printing money and think that there's no end? Most elementary students know the 1-2=-1. Evidently these mental giants have a bad memory and simply forgot what they learned in the 2nd grade.
There is no reason to mention that your friend is African American when stating that he supports President Obama. That was truly vacuous.

#1 - Your comment is extremely bigoted and is the equivalent of those that are racist against African Americans, yet, they try to disprove their racism by stating "I have Black friends".

#2 - The manner is which you relayed this conversation insinuates that because your friend is African American he supports President Obama. Many people in this country have this same perception, namely that all African Americans support President Obama; which is racist and as a person just down right offensive.

#3 - Having stated the following above in #2, there are some African Americans that support/like President Obama solely on the basis of ethnicity. My opinion of that is people who voted based on ethnicity alone are politically ignorant (that applies to this past election or any other election).

#4 - What difference does it truly make that your friend is African American? Can he not just like a political figure strictly based on their character and political ideologies? Unless he stated that he supports President Obama because of his ethnicity. In which case bringing up your friends ethnicity, and not mentioning the true reason why he supports President Obama is highly disingenuous on your part. Furthermore, it shows that to some degree you don't look at him as a person, but just as you described him, an African American.

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There is no reason to mention that your friend is African American when stating that he supports President Obama. That was truly vacuous.

#1 - Your comment is extremely bigoted and is the equivalent of those that are racist against African Americans, yet, they try to disprove their racism by stating "I have Black friends".

#2 - The manner is which you relayed this conversation insinuates that because your friend is African American he supports President Obama. Many people in this country have this same perception, namely that all African Americans support President Obama; which is racist and as a person just down right offensive.

#3 - Having stated the following above in #2, there are some African Americans that support/like President Obama solely on the basis of ethnicity. My opinion of that is people who voted based on ethnicity alone are politically ignorant (that applies to this past election or any other election).

#4 - What difference does it truly make that your friend is African American? Can he not just like a political figure strictly based on their character and political ideologies? Unless he stated that he supports President Obama because of his ethnicity. In which case bringing up your friends ethnicity, and not mentioning the true reason why he supports President Obama is highly disingenuous on your part. Furthermore, it shows that to some degree you don't look at him as a person, but just as you described him, an African American.

I only hope you just as strong when you black people mention "white person". I have doubts.
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I only hope you just as strong when you black people mention "white person". I have doubts.

I wouldn't know I am not Black.
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I wouldn't know I am not Black.
I didn't mean to say you black, I meant to say when you hear black people say white person, sorry.
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I didn't mean to say you black, I meant to say when you hear black people say white person, sorry.
I feel the same way when the situation is reversed. Those who personally know me have seen me "go-off" when this happens. I gets under my skin and is just wrong . If ethnicity isn't germane to the conversation then leave it out. People are people and shouldn't be classified as holding to any particular viewpoint because of their ethnicity. My viewpoint is that this strips a person of their autonomy, which is quite frankly ungodly. (Thank you for the clarification).
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I didn't mean to say you black, I meant to say when you hear black people say white person, sorry.
Is this deliberate or ebonics ?
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Old 05-11-2010, 10:20 AM
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I have a friend who is African American, like me, he can't stand the ground Barry O walks on...
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