Revelation 3:15-16 (New King James Version)
15 “I know your works, that you are neither cold nor hot. I could wish you were cold or hot. 16 So then, because you are lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot,[a] I will vomit you out of My mouth.
I read something pretty interesting about this verse. Many people think Christ meant that he would rather have "cold" people (without faith at all, or without any spiritual growth) than "lukewarm" believers (somewhere in between). They take the word cold to mean negative and hot to mean positive. Instead, cold and hot should both be taken positive.
Jesus wished the church had cold, refreshing purity or hot, therapeutic value. Who likes to bathe with, or drink lukewarm water? Lukewarm has no value. What do you think are some characteristics of a "lukewarm" christian?
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Love is patient, love is kind, Love does not insist on its own way. Love bears all things, believes all things,
Hopes all things, endures all things. Love never fails.
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Last edited by kristian's_mom; 09-25-2009 at 01:00 AM.
That is a loaded question., one that can only provoke negativity. bad feelings,
more of the same talk whenever standards are (and invariably will be in this thread) brought up, etc.etc., its not an edifying topic, soooo
No thanx.
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That is a loaded question., one that can only provoke negativity. bad feelings,
more of the same talk whenever standards are (and invariably will be in this thread) brought up, etc.etc., its not an edifying topic, soooo
No thanx.
Interesting. I would think that discussing the meaning of a scripture would be a good thing. Oh, well.
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Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty
I believe you can sit on a pew every sunday and still be lukewarm.
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That is a loaded question., one that can only provoke negativity. bad feelings,
more of the same talk whenever standards are (and invariably will be in this thread) brought up, etc.etc., its not an edifying topic, soooo
No thanx.
I'm defintely not trying to provoke anything here, nor am I talking about standards. I just want to know what a luke warm christian means so I know what not to be.
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Be content with what you have, for God has said, "Never will I leave you; never will I forsake you." So say with confidence, "The Lord is my helper; I will not be afraid." Hebrews 13:5,6
Love is patient, love is kind, Love does not insist on its own way. Love bears all things, believes all things,
Hopes all things, endures all things. Love never fails.
- I Corinthians 13:4-8
I think there are many false analogies when it comes to talking about "lukewarm" Christians. In fact, there are many things (foods and drink) which are meant to be served lukewarm: red wines are best at room temperature but whites are better chilled. When something is at "room temperature" whether we are talking about literal food products or anything else, we find that room temps are most revealing. You cannot hide a bad taste in something that is served at 76 degrees F. But you CAN if it is ice cold or scalding hot.
17Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:
18I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.
19As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
So, apparently it's Christians who are self-satisfied. Ones who acknowledge God with their mouths, but in their hearts barely give him a thought. Claim to be Christian, but in their hearts rely solely on themselves.
That is what I get from the passage. I'm interested in hearing other viewpoints.
17Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:
18I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.
19As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
So, apparently it's Christians who are self-satisfied. Ones who acknowledge God with their mouths, but in their hearts barely give him a thought. Claim to be Christian, but in their hearts rely solely on themselves.
That is what I get from the passage. I'm interested in hearing other viewpoints.
Or maybe it is also christians that believe they already have all the answers so they have therefore stopped seeking. No spiritual growth at all, they have become comfortable with who they are and are not willing to change. Like a pool of water that has become stagnant.
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Be content with what you have, for God has said, "Never will I leave you; never will I forsake you." So say with confidence, "The Lord is my helper; I will not be afraid." Hebrews 13:5,6
Love is patient, love is kind, Love does not insist on its own way. Love bears all things, believes all things,
Hopes all things, endures all things. Love never fails.
- I Corinthians 13:4-8