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04-13-2009, 06:52 PM
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Knock, Knock Census Bureau Calling.
Well today I had a little visit from your friendly neighborhood federal gestapo.
They stopped by verifying my address for the mailing of the long awaited 2010 census.
He never asked my name. He asked if he had the address right.
He said "Looks like you have some animals back there. You have some goats & some chickens?" To which I replied.. "That's what it looks like."
I wish I had been thinking better at the time I would have told him I didn't want any mention of animals noted.
When they finally pass the NAIS then you will have to obtain a Premise ID from the federal government if you own even one chicken. Even if it is a pet. This goes for all food animals.. milking included. If one dies you have to let them know within 24 hours. If you sell one you have to let them know... if you move one you have to let them know. If they come and audit your land and you have one goat that died and you didn't turn it in then you will face very large fines. This one stop by my house today has put me on the list for the houses they will immediately visit when the NAIS is finally forced through against the massive opposition to it. Of course the NAIS is touted as voluntary... but they always bring their draconian legislation in as voluntary and then make it mandatory.
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04-13-2009, 07:08 PM
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Re: Knock, Knock Census Bureau Calling.
I guess it's safe to assume you've visited this site: http://nonais.org/ 
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04-13-2009, 07:18 PM
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Re: Knock, Knock Census Bureau Calling.
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And many like it.
Currently we are working together to push through legislation in Arkansas that will prevent any such legislation from becoming mandatory.
It can be implemented on a voluntary basis. But not mandatory.
It is called the Freedom To Farm Act.
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04-13-2009, 07:24 PM
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Re: Knock, Knock Census Bureau Calling.
Yeah, the Federal government is going nuts. You should have just told the Census taker that the "animals" were the only Democrats in your county. They'd be protected then.
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04-13-2009, 07:40 PM
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Re: Knock, Knock Census Bureau Calling.
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Yeah, the Federal government is going nuts. You should have just told the Census taker that the "animals" were the only Democrats in your county. They'd be protected then.
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LOL... that might have been worth a try. 
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04-14-2009, 10:34 AM
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Re: Knock, Knock Census Bureau Calling.
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Originally Posted by pelathais
Yeah, the Federal government is going nuts. You should have just told the Census taker that the "animals" were the only Democrats in your county. They'd be protected then.
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They have already gone nuts.
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04-13-2009, 08:33 PM
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Go Dodgers!
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Re: Knock, Knock Census Bureau Calling.
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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth
Well today I had a little visit from your friendly neighborhood federal gestapo.
They stopped by verifying my address for the mailing of the long awaited 2010 census.
He never asked my name. He asked if he had the address right.
He said "Looks like you have some animals back there. You have some goats & some chickens?" To which I replied.. "That's what it looks like."
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You should have said "Nope, I got me some Unicorns and Cockatrices.
And a "nope, wrong address" would have been classic.
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I wish I had been thinking better at the time I would have told him I didn't want any mention of animals noted.
When they finally pass the NAIS then you will have to obtain a Premise ID from the federal government if you own even one chicken. Even if it is a pet. This goes for all food animals.. milking included. If one dies you have to let them know within 24 hours. If you sell one you have to let them know... if you move one you have to let them know. If they come and audit your land and you have one goat that died and you didn't turn it in then you will face very large fines. This one stop by my house today has put me on the list for the houses they will immediately visit when the NAIS is finally forced through against the massive opposition to it. Of course the NAIS is touted as voluntary... but they always bring their draconian legislation in as voluntary and then make it mandatory.
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I can understand their thinking with Mad Cow and the Avian flu
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04-13-2009, 09:44 PM
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Re: Knock, Knock Census Bureau Calling.
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I can understand their thinking with Mad Cow and the Avian flu
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They can think all they want.
But they don't have the right to control what a person raises on their own property to feed their own family.
Period.
And... Conversely... I do have the right to control what I raise on my own property to feed my own family.
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04-14-2009, 12:58 PM
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Go Dodgers!
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Re: Knock, Knock Census Bureau Calling.
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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth
They can think all they want.
But they don't have the right to control what a person raises on their own property to feed their own family.
Period.
And... Conversely... I do have the right to control what I raise on my own property to feed my own family.
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If it's a law, then it's their right.
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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04-14-2009, 01:00 PM
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Re: Knock, Knock Census Bureau Calling.
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
If it's a law, then it's their right.
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Can laws not be unconstitutional?
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