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02-27-2009, 03:16 PM
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Cancer and Other Disease Support
Most of you know me on here and most of you know that my husband had testicular cancer surgery and radiation in the late fall of '07. You may or may not know that he had bladder cancer a few years previous to that.
I wanted to start a thread where people could talk about these issues and get support from each other. I was mentioning some of my struggle to a co-worker this morning and she said "Do you have nayone to talk to about this?" and I said no. She mentioned finding a support group. I may do that sometime, but I thought it might alos be good to have something here.
I found that through the diagnosis,surgery and radiation, I coped fairly well. Afterwards, I started really thinking about my financial situation if I were to lose my husband. I am still in that situation except for having thought hard about it and taking a CNA class. I work 20 hours a week and could not support myself although my husband has life insurance. Realistically though, if he happened to die of cancer, he could end up leaving his job and we would not have the insurance.
His prognosis is good. His last two check-ups were cancer free. And yet, with his history, I can't help but thing about these things. Some people would have gone right out and gotten a full-time job, I suppose. But that just doesn't feel right right now.
So, I am dealing with fear. Every time a check-up rolls around I get panic attacks. Also there is the question of diet and food and how much we are responsible for our own conditions. Sometimes I just want to forget about it. Sometimes I want to make more changes.
So, can some of you others relate to these fears and how are you dealing with them?
Thanks.
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02-27-2009, 03:20 PM
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Re: Cancer and Other Disease Support
I can relate but not from the standpoint of my husband having cancer. He does however have diabetes and heart and other problems associated with this disease. We do have good insurance and a 401k. However I am not working and haven't nor do I ever expect I will be able to. I have health issues of my own. I too struggle with fear sometimes. And I just distract myself to keep from getting scared and depressed. I have never talked to anyone about my fears either.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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02-27-2009, 03:22 PM
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Re: Cancer and Other Disease Support
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Originally Posted by Cindy
I can relate but not from the standpoint of my husband having cancer. He does however have diabetes and heart and other problems associated with this disease. We do have good insurance and a 401k. However I am not working and haven't nor do I ever expect I will be able to. I have health issues of my own. I too struggle with fear sometimes. And I just distract myself to keep from getting scared and depressed. I have never talked to anyone about my fears either.
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I find distracting myself to be the best thing for the most part.
How do you deal with the nutritional aspect? I have a real hard time finding the right balance with the food thing.
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When I was young and clever, I wanted to change the world. Now that I am older and wiser, I strive to change myself. ~
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02-27-2009, 03:31 PM
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Re: Cancer and Other Disease Support
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Originally Posted by ILG
I find distracting myself to be the best thing for the most part.
How do you deal with the nutritional aspect? I have a real hard time finding the right balance with the food thing.
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Girl, to tell you the truth. It doesn't matter how good our intentions are, he eats a lot of things he shouldn't. He will do well for a week or two, and then just kind of fall back into his old habits. He tries hard, but he loves to eat. He is doing much better since he started seeing a specialist. He is now on a synthetic insulin. His appetite has decreased, his blood pressure is down, and he has lost weight. But he struggles with sweets and other foods that are not healthy. He does drink a lot more water now. At times he drinks unsweet tea, or a diet drink. The diet drinks are a real problem.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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02-27-2009, 03:39 PM
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Re: Cancer and Other Disease Support
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Originally Posted by Cindy
Girl, to tell you the truth. It doesn't matter how good our intentions are, he eats a lot of things he shouldn't. He will do well for a week or two, and then just kind of fall back into his old habits. He tries hard, but he loves to eat. He is doing much better since he started seeing a specialist. He is now on a synthetic insulin. His appetite has decreased, his blood pressure is down, and he has lost weight. But he struggles with sweets and other foods that are not healthy. He does drink a lot more water now. At times he drinks unsweet tea, or a diet drink. The diet drinks are a real problem.
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Well, my husband said he would try some vegetarian meals once in a while and he does and he takes supplements and does some exercising. But when I get busy and am too tired to figure out a vegetarian meal or we go out to eat, I sometimes feel guilty. And he also does not eat very well. He thinks he is doing great and I have a hard time not criticizing his eating. But criticizing doesn't help and I know it. He eats a fair amount of sweets and fat stuff. I buy whatever is in the house and I think moderation. But moderation to me and to him is apparently two different things. Should I care? Should I say "He's responsible for what he puts in his own mouth!" Or should I never buy the stuff? Or how much does it matter? We can sit down to the same meal and I can put a lot of veggies on my plate with a little meat and he will have a lot of meat and a few veggies. That's a man too, I realize. Anyway, I feel like if I can make peace with myself here, maybe I can let the rest go between him and God. How do you deal with this?
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When I was young and clever, I wanted to change the world. Now that I am older and wiser, I strive to change myself. ~
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02-27-2009, 05:19 PM
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Re: Cancer and Other Disease Support
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Originally Posted by ILG
Well, my husband said he would try some vegetarian meals once in a while and he does and he takes supplements and does some exercising. But when I get busy and am too tired to figure out a vegetarian meal or we go out to eat, I sometimes feel guilty. And he also does not eat very well. He thinks he is doing great and I have a hard time not criticizing his eating. But criticizing doesn't help and I know it. He eats a fair amount of sweets and fat stuff. I buy whatever is in the house and I think moderation. But moderation to me and to him is apparently two different things. Should I care? Should I say "He's responsible for what he puts in his own mouth!" Or should I never buy the stuff? Or how much does it matter? We can sit down to the same meal and I can put a lot of veggies on my plate with a little meat and he will have a lot of meat and a few veggies. That's a man too, I realize. Anyway, I feel like if I can make peace with myself here, maybe I can let the rest go between him and God. How do you deal with this?
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I know exactly what you are talking about. It does help some that we have a garden every year. But the rest of the year we don't eat as healthy as we should. I don't criticize him either, but I do get frustrated when he won't get up and get his (snacks), usually candy, cookies, or ice cream. But expects me to.....surprise.....lol. He works hard and when he gets home he is in the recliner pretty much until bed time. Of course he does work 2 hours away from home so he is very tired. I just try to not worry so much, and just try to do whatever I can to keep from getting upset with him.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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02-28-2009, 02:22 PM
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Re: Cancer and Other Disease Support
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Originally Posted by ILG
I find distracting myself to be the best thing for the most part.
How do you deal with the nutritional aspect? I have a real hard time finding the right balance with the food thing.
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ILG,
I think the easiest to read and the most concise information about eating healthy is found in The Maker's Diet by Jordan S. Rubin.
You and your husband are in my prayers!!!
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02-28-2009, 06:40 PM
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Re: Cancer and Other Disease Support
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Originally Posted by Pressing-On
ILG,
I think the easiest to read and the most concise information about eating healthy is found in The Maker's Diet by Jordan S. Rubin.
You and your husband are in my prayers!!!
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PO, I am not talking about the education aspect. I think I am fairly educated on the nutritional stuff. The question is how to find a happy line and just be content with it. I think this is harder when you are dealing with serious illness.
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Those who say it cannot be done should not interrupt the people doing it. ~Chinese Proverb
When I was young and clever, I wanted to change the world. Now that I am older and wiser, I strive to change myself. ~
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02-28-2009, 07:08 PM
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Re: Cancer and Other Disease Support
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Originally Posted by ILG
PO, I am not talking about the education aspect. I think I am fairly educated on the nutritional stuff. The question is how to find a happy line and just be content with it. I think this is harder when you are dealing with serious illness.
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It is so hard, and frustrating. As we can't force adults to eat only healthy things. Have you tried leading by example? I find it hard to do that, and I guess we could shop better too.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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02-27-2009, 05:19 PM
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Re: Cancer and Other Disease Support
ILG,
This is such an important and needed topic. I'd say, most, if not all, who read these thread have, are or will at some point, need help in dealing with this. I know I did. I honestly don't know where I'd be right now if it weren't for people on AFF helping me thru this last year.
I wanted to be an encouragement to people like you who are going thru this but, I am afraid I can't be much encouragement. After all, well, you know the outcome of my situation and I don't want to add to your fears and concerns. I've purposely avoided prayer requests or threads that dealt with cancer, because, well, again...you know the outcome.
But through it all, I can tell you this, as I said then, God did not fail. No, the outcome wasn't what I prayed for...it wasn't what I hoped for. It was what it was, but, God didn't fail. Lola's passing was just another part of her life experience. Whether or not her death was a part of God's Master Plan, I don't know. And don't really care. I just accept her death as the end of the good life she lived. Her death wasn't the result of some sin, or lack of faith...it just was.
But, I've been there sister. The surgery (would she wake up after surgery, would she know me?). The radiation, the chemo. With every treatment, with every day, I watched her slip further away. So, all I could do..and all you can do...is put it in God's hands and just accept what will be, will be. I know thats not helpful, but thats all there really is.
Do your best to keep his spirits up...keep him fighting. And keep praying. I wish I could say more, but know this...you aren't alone. I'll be praying for you and Mr. ILG.
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