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11-24-2008, 03:27 PM
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Emergent Leader says "Gay is Biblical Lifestyle"
One of the key leaders of today's most cutting-edge church movement has opened an Internet discussion on the issue of same-sex marriage with the bold proclamation that he believes "gay, lesbian, bisexual, transsexual and queer" individuals can and should live out their sexuality in – and blessed by – the Christian church.
"I now believe that GLBTQ can live lives in accord with biblical Christianity (as least as much as any of us can!)," writes author and church leader Tony Jones, "and that their monogamy can and should be sanctioned and blessed by church and state."
Jones is an author and former youth pastor who holds a doctorate from Princeton Theological Seminary. He is also the national coordinator of Emergent Village, a loosely-formed friendship of churches that derive their descriptive name from having "emerged" from postmodernism to take the gospel of Jesus Christ into a post-Christian culture.
The "Emergent Church," as these mostly young, community- and mission-driven congregations are collectively known, is criticized by some for being "theologically liberal," praised by others as the best hope for passing the torch of Christianity to future generations.
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http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?f...w&pageId=81765
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11-24-2008, 03:31 PM
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Re: Emergent Leader says "Gay is Biblical Lifestyl
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Originally Posted by Weary Pilgrim
One of the key leaders of today's most cutting-edge church movement has opened an Internet discussion on the issue of same-sex marriage with the bold proclamation that he believes "gay, lesbian, bisexual, transsexual and queer" individuals can and should live out their sexuality in – and blessed by – the Christian church.
"I now believe that GLBTQ can live lives in accord with biblical Christianity (as least as much as any of us can!)," writes author and church leader Tony Jones, "and that their monogamy can and should be sanctioned and blessed by church and state."
Jones is an author and former youth pastor who holds a doctorate from Princeton Theological Seminary. He is also the national coordinator of Emergent Village, a loosely-formed friendship of churches that derive their descriptive name from having "emerged" from postmodernism to take the gospel of Jesus Christ into a post-Christian culture.
The "Emergent Church," as these mostly young, community- and mission-driven congregations are collectively known, is criticized by some for being "theologically liberal," praised by others as the best hope for passing the torch of Christianity to future generations.
Read the entire story
http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?f...w&pageId=81765
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What can be said about something like this. I pray that our God of mercy grants him repentence.
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11-24-2008, 03:33 PM
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Re: Emergent Leader says "Gay is Biblical Lifestyl
~~QUESTION~~
Isn't the Emerging Church" the conference or seminars that a lot of UPC preachers are going to to get Ideas???
I would like to hear what the defenders of post moderism and attending Emergent conferences have to say now
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11-24-2008, 06:12 PM
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Re: Emergent Leader says "Gay is Biblical Lifestyl
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Originally Posted by StMark
~~QUESTION~~
Isn't the Emerging Church" the conference or seminars that a lot of UPC preachers are going to to get Ideas???
I would like to hear what the defenders of post moderism and attending Emergent conferences have to say now
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A preacher took a bunch of people to a jungle and they all drank Kool-Aid and they call died! Thus ALL preachers must be psychotic cult leaders!
Or, there have been music ministers that went into the gay lifestyle. Thus, ALL music ministers are gay.
Come on StMark, just because one guy expresses opinion doesn't mean he represents the opinions of all his friends.
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11-24-2008, 03:34 PM
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Re: Emergent Leader says "Gay is Biblical Lifestyl
There they go...
Tieing this into the emergent church as if the emergent church is one group of people holding to one doctrine.
Just because he creates his doctrine sans the word of the Living God doesn't make this the doctrine of the emergent church.
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11-24-2008, 06:16 PM
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Re: Emergent Leader says "Gay is Biblical Lifestyl
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There they go...
Tieing this into the emergent church as if the emergent church is one group of people holding to one doctrine.
Just because he creates his doctrine sans the word of the Living God doesn't make this the doctrine of the emergent church.
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I know, it's stinkin' retarded. You're right, there is no 'emerging church' and no doctrine of the emerging church. It is a loosely knit movement that is attempting to wrestle with the problem of the most effective response by the church to post-modernism. There is no consensus and there are many, many factions with divergent perspectives on every issue of doctrine and ecclessiology. Tony Jones represents the very liberal segment of a vast group. Most emerging/emergents don't believe this aspect of his personal theology.
Although I am sure that there are many homosexuals and lesbians in the church who would like to reconcile their predilections with Scripture who like what he has to say.
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11-24-2008, 08:20 PM
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Still Figuring It Out.
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Re: Emergent Leader says "Gay is Biblical Lifestyl
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Originally Posted by A_PoMo
I know, it's stinkin' retarded. You're right, there is no 'emerging church' and no doctrine of the emerging church. It is a loosely knit movement that is attempting to wrestle with the problem of the most effective response by the church to post-modernism. There is no consensus and there are many, many factions with divergent perspectives on every issue of doctrine and ecclessiology. Tony Jones represents the very liberal segment of a vast group. Most emerging/emergents don't believe this aspect of his personal theology.
Although I am sure that there are many homosexuals and lesbians in the church who would like to reconcile their predilections with Scripture who like what he has to say.
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Indeed... although it is not the best analogy it brings to mind the days of Jimmy Swaggarts indiscretions. ALL Pentecostals were tagged from one mans sin.
It makes as sense to tie this persons statements to the "emergent church" as it does to tie a conservative pentecostal preacher like Brother Epley with the actions of Jimmy Swaggart or Jim Bakker etc. There are some relative terms that might be similar but the two do not, in any way, represent one another.
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11-24-2008, 10:53 PM
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Re: Emergent Leader says "Gay is Biblical Lifestyl
Seems the church is wrestling with dwindling converts and trying to take them all at all costs, but is that bible? Does the bible say we can save everyone?
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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11-24-2008, 03:34 PM
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Re: Emergent Leader says "Gay is Biblical Lifestyl
It is a Biblical lifestyle......for Sodom & Gomorrah & is worthy of the Judgment of God!
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11-24-2008, 03:44 PM
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Re: Emergent Leader says "Gay is Biblical Lifestyl
The devil is a liar!
Homosexuality is not God's will for anyone, period dot end!!!!
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