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Old 10-09-2008, 01:35 PM
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The Reality: Obama Supporters Can't Elucidate Why

If our good friends on the other side of the aisle here on AFF were truly convinced that they had a logical, reasonable, understandable and sensible rationale for their support of Obama we would have seen and heard it by now. The absence of the most ardent supporters of the Obama campaign here on AFF is very telling that when asked numerous times to explain their passionate support of this man for president, the answers never materialized.

The reality is that rather than people supporting McCain because they're AGAINST Obama, Obama supporters are supporting him because they are AGAINST Bush/Cheney, the GOP and they have embraced the biased accounts of the Bush presidency via mainstream media, Michael Moore, Oliver Stone, Bill Maher, Keith Olbermann, Chris Matthews, Arianna Huffington and the Daily Kos (Kooks), Sean Penn, Oprah, and the celebrity bunch.

There is a reason why young people tend to support the worst of candidates: McGovern, Dukakis, Clinton, Gore, Kerry. Its because they are young, lack wisdom and experience, they are impressionable, they are heavily inflenced by media and celebrities and pop culture, and they often follow the choices of their peers. There is a reason why elders vote differently: they have lived a while and they understand what real life is all about.

The biblical account of Reheboam's disasterous rise to the throune after his father Solomon died is a case in point. Solomon in order to expand and uild his kingdom had laid heavy taxes on the people. When Reheboam became king after his father's death, the elders approached him and encouraged him to lift the tax burden as a gesture of good faith to the nation. The young men counseled Reheboam to do the opposite: raise the taxes and show the nation who is boss. Consequently Reheboam lost the ten northern tribes over it and Israel was never the same.

The lesson? The voices of wisdom typically come from the aged. When you see a bunch of young people gravitating to something and a bunch of elders doing the opposite, it is a safer bet to follow the wisdom of the elders.

The whys of supporting Obama are weak and stylisitc at best. McCain is the safe choice for our next president. If only the young would humble themselves and listen.........................................
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Old 10-09-2008, 02:18 PM
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the aged are not always the wisest, niether are christians always the wisest, else we never would have had civil rights for minorities or voting rights for women.
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Old 10-09-2008, 03:28 PM
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the aged are not always the wisest, neither are Christians always the wisest, else we never would have had civil rights for minorities or voting rights for women.
DM: Does this mean you are going to provide a lucid list of reasons why you are voting for Barack Obama? And no fair maligning the opponent--just be supportive of your guy.
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DM: Does this mean you are going to provide a lucid list of reasons why you are voting for Barack Obama? And no fair maligning the opponent--just be supportive of your guy.
I've already listed my reasons on another deacon thread. I don't think listing reasons is going to change anyone's view. I'm just here having fun.
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Old 10-09-2008, 03:42 PM
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I've already listed my reasons on another deacon thread. I don't think listing reasons is going to change anyone's view. I'm just here having fun.
point me to those reasons. i would certainly like to see them.
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Old 10-09-2008, 03:53 PM
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I've already listed my reasons on another deacon thread. I don't think listing reasons is going to change anyone's view. I'm just here having fun.
GOOD! I must have missed that one. I'll have to go search it out. I cant wait to read it.
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I've already listed my reasons on another deacon thread. I don't think listing reasons is going to change anyone's view. I'm just here having fun.
Oh, you did? Can you point me to the thread? I didn't see it. TY!!!!!!
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Oh, you did? Can you point me to the thread? I didn't see it. TY!!!!!!
He will tax the rich
Bring down the deficit
Balance the budget
Bring economic prosperity
Save social security
Make college more affordable
Expand healthcare for all Americans
Strenghthen international institutions
Bring peace to the middle east
Lead us away from oil dependency
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DM: Does this mean you are going to provide a lucid list of reasons why you are voting for Barack Obama? And no fair maligning the opponent--just be supportive of your guy.
I think Obama's pick for VP demonstrates why I'm going to vote for him. A VP needs to be a seasoned leader who can rally Congress and a nation in the wake of a national tragedy wherein the President has lost his or her life. It's hardly a job for an amature. Obama chose Biden. While I wasn't thrilled with Obama still lacking experience as President his choice demonstrated the widsom and care he'd have as a leader when it comes to subordinates and advisors.

McCain picked Palin. An inexperienced amature politician. I have no confidence that she could run the country should a tragedy unfold and McCain loose his life. He chose her hoping to pick up disenfranchized Hillary voters from Obama. It's obvious that McCain doesn't give a skunk about America navigating a crisis in the wake of his death....he picked her to win an election. That causes me considerable pause when considering who he might pick as subordinates and advisors too.

Obama, in my opinion played a better hand that demonstrated wisdom. Now...had McCain picked someone more seasoned than Biden....that would have been REAL interesting.
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I think Obama's pick for VP demonstrates why I'm going to vote for him. A VP needs to be a seasoned leader who can rally Congress and a nation in the wake of a national tragedy wherein the President has lost his or her life. It's hardly a job for an amature. Obama chose Biden. While I wasn't thrilled with Obama still lacking experience as President his choice demonstrated the widsom and care he'd have as a leader when it comes to subordinates and advisors.

McCain picked Palin. An inexperienced amature politician. I have no confidence that she could run the country should a tragedy unfold and McCain loose his life. He chose her hoping to pick up disenfranchized Hillary voters from Obama. It's obvious that McCain doesn't give a skunk about America navigating a crisis in the wake of his death....he picked her to win an election. That causes me considerable pause when considering who he might pick as subordinates and advisors too.

Obama, in my opinion played a better hand that demonstrated wisdom. Now...had McCain picked someone more seasoned than Biden....that would have been REAL interesting.
This rationale is perplexing.

So McCain shows lack of wisdom in picking Palin as a VP running mate. BUT Obama has LESS executive experience than Palin and he is the TOP OF THE TICKET!!!!

Your concern is that Palin lacks experience and isn't qualified to be president and that there is a chance that Mac might die while in office, BUT Obama lacks experience and isn't qualified to be prez and he would be president from DAY ONE!!!!!

I am corn-fused
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