Has Jon Suber embraced the One Step Doctrine?

Weary Pilgrim · #1 08-24-2008, 07:23 PM

I noticed that Suber's church website has a statement of faith that sounds like a one stepper. I thought that might be shocking to his many fans. Of course it could be the statement from when it was under the previous pastor but I can't imagine that pastor giving the church to someone doctrinally different than himself.

Here is the church website;

http://faithtabernacleshreveport.org/

soldoutochrist · #2 08-24-2008, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Weary Pilgrim

I noticed that Suber's church website has a statement of faith that sounds like a one stepper. I thought that might be shocking to his many fans. Of course it could be the statement from when it was under the previous pastor but I can't imagine that pastor giving the church to someone doctrinally different than himself.

Here is the church website;

http://faithtabernacleshreveport.org/

…all believers should be buried with Christ Jesus in the waters of baptism (Acts 2:38, Rom. 6:3-5, Matt. 28:19).

…that the baptism of the Holy Spirit with the initial evidence of speaking in other tongues as the Spirit of God gives the utterance is an endowment of power given to the believer for sanctification and evangelism (Acts 1:8, 2:1-4, 19:1-2).

Rhoni · #3 08-24-2008, 08:29 PM

Don't start this ...again. Bro. Jon Suber has not changed.

Get a life.

Blessings, Rhoni

TRFrance · #4 08-24-2008, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Rhoni

Don't start this ...again. Bro. Jon Suber has not changed.

Get a life.

Blessings, Rhoni

Gee.. kinda harsh, aren't we?
I think it's a fair question to ask.

Sam · #5 08-24-2008, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by TRFrance

Gee.. kinda harsh, aren't we?
I think it's a fair question to ask.

Careful,
We can become a heresy hunter like Torquemada Hanegraff and suspect everybody and trust nobody.

Rhoni · #6 08-24-2008, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TRFrance

Gee.. kinda harsh, aren't we?
I think it's a fair question to ask.

TR,

You might think so but this has been visited and revisited and I think we need to think on whatsoever things are true, holy, of a good report, if there be any virtue, if there be any praise...think on these things.

In Jesus name.

TRFrance · #7 08-24-2008, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Rhoni

TR,

You might think so but this has been visited and revisited and I think we need to think on whatsoever things are true, holy, of a good report, if there be any virtue, if there be any praise...think on these things.

In Jesus name.

Just because people might have questions about where he stands, that doesn't mean they are being negative, or trying to tear him down.

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I think it is a fair question when you (or your website) makes statements to make people wonder where you stand.

The burden of clarity rests with the speaker, not the listener (or reader in this case).

I agree.
Suber is one of the most well known figures in Oneness Pentecost. If he did, for whatever reason, shift his position, its something that's obviously going to make people take notice.. and understandably so.

As for me, I'll just say reading his Articles of Faith on his website,it reads more like what you'd see from a 1-stepper church than a 3-stepper church. The man can describe his doctrinal positions however he chooses... but if he is indeed still 3-stepper, it's not worded in such a way that would clearly show that he is. Simple fact is, as long as his website is worded the way it is, it's going to make people wonder what side of the fence he is on.

tv1a · #8 08-24-2008, 08:57 PM

I was booted off a conservative forum once because I refused to play their word games. I said I believed he that believeth and is baptized shall be saved. I said I beleived that acts 2:38 was the culmination of the salvation experience. The borg wanted me to word it exactly the way they said it, but I wouldn't play their pithy little game. There is more than one way to word a doctrinal statement.

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Originally Posted by TRFrance

Just because people might have questions about where he stands, that doesn't mean they are being negative, or trying to tear him down.

I agree.
Suber is one of the most well known figures in Oneness Pentecost. If he did, for whatever reason, shift his position, its something that's obviously going to make people take notice.. and understandably so.

As for me, I'll just say reading his Articles of Faith on his website,it reads more like what you'd see from a 1-stepper church than a 3-stepper church. The man can describe his doctrinal positions however he chooses... but if he is indeed still 3-stepper, it's not worded in such a way that would clearly show that he is. Simple fact is, as long as his website is worded the way it is, it's going to make people wonder what side of the fence he is on.

CC1 · #9 08-24-2008, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by trfrance

just because people might have questions about where he stands, that doesn't mean they are being negative, or trying to tear him down.

I agree.
Suber is one of the most well known figures in oneness pentecost. If he did, for whatever reason, shift his position, its something that's obviously going to make people take notice.. And understandably so.

As for me, i'll just say reading his articles of faith on his website,it reads more like what you'd see from a 1-stepper church than a 3-stepper church. The man can describe his doctrinal positions however he chooses... But if he is indeed still 3-stepper, it's not worded in such a way that would clearly show that he is. Simple fact is, as long as his website is worded the way it is, it's going to make people wonder what side of the fence he is on.

ditto