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Old 07-15-2008, 01:34 AM
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What makes YOU a Conservative Apostolic?

Do you believe cutting hair is a sin worthy of hell?

Do you believe a woman should not cut their hair but it is not really a heaven or hell thing?

No makeup at all or they are sinning?

A little base is ok but other wise it's a sin?

No jewelry whatsoever, it's all sin?

At least a wedding band, but all else is sin?

Women must wear dresses to their ankles. Anything else is sin?

Women can wear dresses and skirts to below their knees, but no slits as that is sin?

Facial hair on men is sin.?

Facial hair is ok on men, not a sin?

Men must have hair above the collar, any lower and they are sinning.?

Shorts of any length is sin?

Tithing is a must. To not tithe you sin?

No TV watching at all, it's sin?

You can't even own a video machine no TV, no VCR and no DVD player, it's sin?

No internet, it's a sin?

Music must be at least 30 years old, no new fangled stuff or it's sin.

What ever your pastor teaches or says you must obey, even if you disagree, otherwise you are sinning?

Add more here if you like. I just want to see if all those that claim they are conservatives but others here are not, believe the same. What really makes someone a conservative?
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Old 07-15-2008, 03:18 AM
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Re: What makes YOU a Conservative Apostolic?

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Do you believe cutting hair is a sin worthy of hell?

Do you believe a woman should not cut their hair but it is not really a heaven or hell thing?

No makeup at all or they are sinning?

A little base is ok but other wise it's a sin?

No jewelry whatsoever, it's all sin?

At least a wedding band, but all else is sin?

Women must wear dresses to their ankles. Anything else is sin?

Women can wear dresses and skirts to below their knees, but no slits as that is sin?

Facial hair on men is sin.?

Facial hair is ok on men, not a sin?

Men must have hair above the collar, any lower and they are sinning.?

Shorts of any length is sin?

Tithing is a must. To not tithe you sin?

No TV watching at all, it's sin?

You can't even own a video machine no TV, no VCR and no DVD player, it's sin?

No internet, it's a sin?

Music must be at least 30 years old, no new fangled stuff or it's sin.

What ever your pastor teaches or says you must obey, even if you disagree, otherwise you are sinning?

Add more here if you like. I just want to see if all those that claim they are conservatives but others here are not, believe the same. What really makes someone a conservative?
why do other people bother you so much.
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Old 07-15-2008, 04:47 AM
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Re: What makes YOU a Conservative Apostolic?

Nothing. I'm not a COnservative Apostolic.
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Old 07-15-2008, 04:48 AM
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Re: What makes YOU a Conservative Apostolic?

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why do other people bother you so much.
lay off of him-- he's just asking a question. I for one would like to see the answers he gets from those who are Conservative.
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Old 07-15-2008, 02:00 PM
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Re: What makes YOU a Conservative Apostolic?

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lay off of him-- he's just asking a question. I for one would like to see the answers he gets from those who are Conservative.
Thank you. You see I think many that get labeled NOT Conservative just because they don't believe in a certain dress code, could still be considered conservative. To many other denoms even the moderate Apostolic is probably a very conservative person
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  2. The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
  3. Every sinner must repent of their sins.
  4. That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
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Old 07-15-2008, 01:59 PM
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Re: What makes YOU a Conservative Apostolic?

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why do other people bother you so much.
That doesn't make sense. You are a conservative aren't you? I'm interested in what makes a conservative truly a conservative and others not. I don't think all conservatives or those that claim to be conservative even agree with each other on all things either. So it's an honest question to you and others that claim they are conservatives and everyone else is not. What makes you a conservative?
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  1. There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
  2. The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
  3. Every sinner must repent of their sins.
  4. That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
  5. That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
  6. The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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Old 07-15-2008, 05:37 AM
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Re: What makes YOU a Conservative Apostolic?

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Do you believe cutting hair is a sin worthy of hell?

Quote:
NO
Do you believe a woman should not cut their hair but it is not really a heaven or hell thing?

Quote:
NO
No makeup at all or they are sinning?

Quote:
NO
A little base is ok but other wise it's a sin?

Quote:
NO
No jewelry whatsoever, it's all sin?

Quote:
NO
At least a wedding band, but all else is sin?

Quote:
NO
Women must wear dresses to their ankles. Anything else is sin?

Quote:
NO
Women can wear dresses and skirts to below their knees, but no slits as that is sin?

Quote:
NO
Facial hair on men is sin.?

Quote:
NO
Facial hair is ok on men, not a sin?

Quote:
YES
Men must have hair above the collar, any lower and they are sinning.?

Quote:
NO
Shorts of any length is sin?

Quote:
NO
Tithing is a must. To not tithe you sin?

Quote:
NO
No TV watching at all, it's sin?

Quote:
NO
You can't even own a video machine no TV, no VCR and no DVD player, it's sin?

Quote:
NO
No internet, it's a sin?

Quote:
NO
Music must be at least 30 years old, no new fangled stuff or it's sin.

Quote:
NO
What ever your pastor teaches or says you must obey, even if you disagree, otherwise you are sinning?

Quote:
NO WAY
Add more here if you like. I just want to see if all those that claim they are conservatives but others here are not, believe the same. What really makes someone a conservative?
Christ looks on the inward condition and attitues of the heart and a person's character. Anything can me a sin but not for the reasons stated above.

Why must men interpret what the word says to suit their own prejudices, convictions, or worldviews?

Why does it make people feel "holy" measured by the amount of rules they keep which are only outward and arrogant shows of men's/women's measure of "holiness"?


Blessings, Rhoni
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Old 07-15-2008, 05:41 AM
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Re: What makes YOU a Conservative Apostolic?

In answer to the orginal question: What makes me a 'conservative'? I believe the doctrine of ACTS 2:38, John 3: 3,5. I believe to see or enter heaven one must be born again of the water and the Spirit. These signs shall follow, and the fruits of the spirit be manifest in the individuals life.

I am conservative in Doctrine and LIBERATED by the grace and mercy of God.

Blessings, Rhoni
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Old 07-15-2008, 02:02 PM
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Re: What makes YOU a Conservative Apostolic?

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In answer to the orginal question: What makes me a 'conservative'? I believe the doctrine of ACTS 2:38, John 3: 3,5. I believe to see or enter heaven one must be born again of the water and the Spirit. These signs shall follow, and the fruits of the spirit be manifest in the individuals life.

I am conservative in Doctrine and LIBERATED by the grace and mercy of God.

Blessings, Rhoni
See? Rhoni considers herself a conservative. But some of these "conservative" brothers would label her a liberal Charismatic
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  1. There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
  2. The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
  3. Every sinner must repent of their sins.
  4. That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
  5. That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
  6. The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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Re: What makes YOU a Conservative Apostolic?

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Do you believe cutting hair is a sin worthy of hell?

No

Do you believe a woman should not cut their hair but it is not really a heaven or hell thing?

Perhaps, if they see only uncut hair as long.

No makeup at all or they are sinning?

No

A little base is ok but other wise it's a sin?

No

No jewelry whatsoever, it's all sin?

No

At least a wedding band, but all else is sin?

No

Women must wear dresses to their ankles. Anything else is sin?

No

Women can wear dresses and skirts to below their knees, but no slits as that is sin?

No

Facial hair on men is sin.?

No

Facial hair is ok on men, not a sin?

Right

Men must have hair above the collar, any lower and they are sinning.?

No

Shorts of any length is sin?

No

Tithing is a must. To not tithe you sin?

No

No TV watching at all, it's sin?

No

You can't even own a video machine no TV, no VCR and no DVD player, it's sin?

No

No internet, it's a sin?

No

Music must be at least 30 years old, no new fangled stuff or it's sin.

No

What ever your pastor teaches or says you must obey, even if you disagree, otherwise you are sinning?

No

Add more here if you like. I just want to see if all those that claim they are conservatives but others here are not, believe the same. What really makes someone a conservative?

I am conservative because I take a quite literal approach to scripture, believing even a layperson can find the key to eternal life in Jesus. I am conservative because I choose to discipline myself and my lifestyle far more than required by Christian liberty.

Finally, I am very conservative in dishing out judgement to Christians who love Jesus but have reached conclusions other than what I have, and leave the casting "into outer darkness" to Him that can actually accomplish it.
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