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Old 03-27-2008, 04:32 PM
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Every time I turn on TBN and see one of these big name evangelist I can not help but think of numerology. I wonder if these guys studied the Kabbalah.

If you have ever watched and listened you know what I mean. "2007 is your year of harvest if you so an uncommon seed because 7 is God's number of completeness"

I am confronted over and over again a gospel message based on some special nuance of the number in a year or month or even an amount to be given and promises based on that. Or claiming God told this preacher to tell everyone to give 29,290 or 2,900 dollars based on a reading of Psalms 2:9 or something like that.
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Old 03-27-2008, 04:36 PM
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Every time I turn on TBN and see one of these big name evangelist I can not help but think of numerology. I wonder if these guys studied the Kabbalah.

If you have ever watched and listened you know what I mean. "2007 is your year of harvest if you so an uncommon seed because 7 is God's number of completeness"

I am confronted over and over again a gospel message based on some special nuance of the number in a year or month or even an amount to be given and promises based on that. Or claiming God told this preacher to tell everyone to give 29,290 or 2,900 dollars based on a reading of Psalms 2:9 or something like that.
Get ready, Tele-thon starts next week!

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Tuesday, April 1st Praise-a-thon with Paul & Jan, Paul Crouch, Jr., Crabb Family, Bishop John Francis, Dr. Patricia Bailey-Jones, Larry Huch, Bro. R.W. Schambach, Pastor Rod Parsley, Bishop Eddie Long, Jentezen Franklin, Jesse Duplantis, Donnie McClurkin & more!


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Old 03-27-2008, 04:42 PM
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Get ready, Tele-thon starts next week!

Monday, March 31st Praise-a-thon with Paul & Jan, Paul Crouch, Jr., Benny Hinn, Mark Chironna, Paula White, Creflo Dollar, Steve Brock, Del Way, Mike Purkey, Jessy Dixon, Karen Wheaton & Chosen, Judy Jacobs, Steve Munsey, Jamal H. Bryant, Crabb Family & more!


Tuesday, April 1st Praise-a-thon with Paul & Jan, Paul Crouch, Jr., Crabb Family, Bishop John Francis, Dr. Patricia Bailey-Jones, Larry Huch, Bro. R.W. Schambach, Pastor Rod Parsley, Bishop Eddie Long, Jentezen Franklin, Jesse Duplantis, Donnie McClurkin & more!


Wednesday, April 2nd Praise-a-thon with Paul & Jan, Paul Crouch, Jr., Pastor Igor Nikitin, Nabil & Yvette Isaac, Pastor Ron Gibson, Vern Jackson, Dr. Mark Chironna, Paula White, Dr. Creflo Dollar, Steve Brock, Del Way, Mike Purkey, Jessy Dixon and more!

This is usually when I see it the most too haha....I'd watch Donnie though and I hope Bishop Long does not get into that stuff. If they just preached a regular sermon on faith and believing I'd be more likely to give that what I usually hear out of them
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This is usually when I see it the most too haha....I'd watch Donnie though and I hope Bishop Long does not get into that stuff. If they just preached a regular sermon on faith and believing I'd be more likely to give that what I usually hear out of them
Yeah but faith doesn't pay the bills
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Yeah but faith doesn't pay the bills
yeah but? what is your point?
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yeah but? what is your point?
Don't know how true it is, but a high profile evangelist announced on radio that TBN had 500 Million in the bank.
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Yeah but faith doesn't pay the bills
Neither does flapping your gums. They pay their bills based on those that give. I bet more would be willing to give if they preached a message that makes people realize the value of TBN rather than conning them into thinking if they gave x amount based on a magical number they would become rich
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My response was very much sarcastic. I do not agree with their prosperity preaching and what they do to support the "Lifestyles of the Rich and the Famous"
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My problem with the whole prosperity message is that it only appeals to those who don't have anything. How embarrassing to have the affluent listening to a church and hearing "us" talk about what they have already attained as if that is all we have to offer. What does the extremely weathy person who has the houses and cars but is absolutely dead on the inside, do? What do they do when there is something telling them that there has to be more out there than what this preacher is selling to all the broke people? They turn to Scientology and Kabala and anything else that seems to be offering something more.
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My problem with the whole prosperity message is that it only appeals to those who don't have anything. How embarrassing to have the affluent listening to a church and hearing "us" talk about what they have already attained as if that is all we have to offer. What does the extremely weathy person who has the houses and cars but is absolutely dead on the inside, do? What do they do when there is something telling them that there has to be more out there than what this preacher is selling to all the broke people? They turn to Scientology and Kabala and anything else that seems to be offering something more.
Exactly. Jesus came for the matters of the heart...to a lost and sin sick world to redeem them. The rich need to understand as much as anyone that they are lost sinners and neec Christ
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