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Old 02-22-2007, 04:41 PM
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While it is somewhat humorous, the truth is these issues keep people from truth. They are unnecessary yokes. They offend little ones.
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Old 02-22-2007, 04:41 PM
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This is a silly unnecessary yoke. What if this is the one issue that keeps someone from the cross?
That attitude is part of the reason why my husband isn't in church today.
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Old 02-22-2007, 04:42 PM
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What's even more outrageous is that within the movement it is not policed equitably ... i.e. White pastors would be subject to a board investigation if they even had a little stubble while some Hispanic and Jamaican pastors are never questioned ....
This is so true. What is the deal with that? Why is it okay for blacks to have a beard?
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Old 02-22-2007, 04:43 PM
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This is so true. What is the deal with that? Why is it okay for blacks to have a beard?
That's because ... no one wants to examine the first issue to divide Pentecostalism was not the "New Issue" of 1913 and 1914 ....but racism .... let me not get started ... Just examine the words of Parham and others.
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Old 02-22-2007, 04:45 PM
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Example 2.

Do you realize, in our movement, we actually have a tract titled "Why I Do Not Have a Television"?

Can you imagine standing on a street corner passing that one out? Or giving it to your neighbor, or the waitress at the restaurant? Of all the things you could say, this is the lasting impression you wish to leave? Unreal!
We could be spreading the gospel, but we are pushing a cultural issue instead. Or is the television issue a part of the gospel to some?
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Old 02-22-2007, 04:45 PM
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We could be spreading the gospel, but we are pushing a cultural issue instead. Or is the television issue a part of the gospel to some?
It ain't just the gospel ... it's the truth ... for some.
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It needs to be revised "Why I Do Not Have A Television but can watch YouTube"
ROFL!!! Now I'm coughing uncontrollably!
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Old 02-22-2007, 04:46 PM
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That's because ... no one wants to examine the first issue to divide Pentecostalism was not the "New Issue" of 1913 and 1914 ....but racism .... let me not get started ... Just examine the words of Parham and others.
Did you know there was an official apology issued to the PAW and other Oneness Black organizations from the UPC last year?
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Did you know there was an official apology issued to the PAW and other Oneness Black organizations from the UPC last year?
Yep. Although they are still viewed as having a "weaker" message.
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Old 02-22-2007, 04:47 PM
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PP and Dan, just a sincere question. Why do you stay in the UPC? Wouldn't it be more honest to leave?
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