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Old 02-22-2007, 10:47 PM
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Tony Gwynn's the man, Dave ... saw him in SD ... in his last year ... in a game against the Mets .....

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At least you know something about baseball!
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Old 02-22-2007, 10:49 PM
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You guys keep it down to a low roar and have fun!

Last one to turn out the lights, say a prayer for everyone else!
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Old 02-22-2007, 10:50 PM
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Brother Jones,

I apologize for offending you and anyone else. I am operating from a growing frustration at these sort of things. If you read the full body of my posts, you will see that I only spoke of ideas, and not people.

It is never my intent to harm anyone. That being said, if I would have been of a different philosophical viewpoint, I could have said something to the effect that "sports is killing our kids". And of course, that would have been perfectly acceptable to you and others.

By saying something like that, I would be saying that parents and pastors that allow such things are committing spiritual abortion. My brother, can you see the hypocrisy innvolved?

Why can one group say it, and be perfectly within logical bounds. Yet when I say it against another extreme, I am offensive and disrespectful. The irony is that this is the exact issue I alluded to in the original post.

I wanted to explain myself. I will leave it alone now, unless you need further clarification.
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Old 02-22-2007, 10:51 PM
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Dan,

At least you know something about baseball!


can someone say 26 WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS!!!!!!!!
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Old 02-22-2007, 10:51 PM
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MOW,

It happens in your all love world of liberalism too! Don't make it out to be and exclusive right of the UPC. Men who hold to nothing use other means than standards to control and brow beat folks. It is a common malady where ever men are found!
My world is NOT an all love world. Unlike Joel Osteen, who was just on the news and admitted it, I DO preach against sin and call sinful behavior what it is. I DO preach separation. I just don't it in "clothes." (pun intended)

It is not exclusive to the UPC, but that is what is being discussed here. Yes, there are liberals as well who wield control over their followers with craziness.
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Old 02-22-2007, 10:52 PM
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can someone say 26 WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS!!!!!!!!
Still looking for #1
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Old 02-22-2007, 10:54 PM
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Nothing like that TINO MARTINEZ GRAND SLAM IN 1998 ... CAN YOU SAY SWEEP ... although Gwynn did not embarrass himself ... he was just too good.
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Old 02-22-2007, 10:57 PM
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Old 02-22-2007, 10:59 PM
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Brother Jones,

I never said the issue I was talking about is exclusive to the UPC. I never named names. I did mention specific ideas that are harmful. I did not bash anyone. On the contrary, I agreed with one poster who sounded the caution alarm.

If you believe there are certain liberal ideas that are harmful, and even spiritually deadly to the soul of a man, surely you can agree that too much legalism ends to the same sort of death.

Both are wrong. I am trying to find a happy median in life. MOW was partially right, I detest certain attitudes that are currently on display. Apparently, you detest mine. For that I truly apologize.
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Can you even begin to imagine? A book written to solidify the idea that having facial hair is sinful? And this while the bible plainly states they plucked the Saviour's beard. Not to mention the fact that history teaches us that it was the custom of true Apostolic men to have a beard. It was a badge of masculinity.
Shows the lengths that men go for control and manipulation, intended or not!
I don't believe facial hair is even on God's radar screen concerning holiness. The whole idea is so ridiculous.
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