KH believes the Light Doctrine??

[Pastor Keith]

Originally Posted by Mrs. LPW

That was well put.
I appreciated it.

The problem I see with the Trinitarians, isn't so much their understanding as it is their not using the Name in baptism.

Well there are tri-theists and that is real bad!

[Mrs. LPW]

Originally Posted by keith4him

Well there are tri-theists and that is real bad!

yes, they have a catagory all their own... The Catholic doctrine is very tri-theistic, although the average Catholic couldn't spout it, most aren't even aware.

[Pastor Keith]

Originally Posted by Mrs. LPW

yes, they have a catagory all their own... The Catholic doctrine is very tri-theistic, although the average Catholic couldn't spout it, most aren't even aware.

Yes, mostly the theologians and Jimmy Swaggart espouse that view.

[Apprehended]

Originally Posted by keith4him

Well not to obey that which is revealed is sin and will cause one to walk in darkness. Or what Jesus says, even that which he has will be taken away!

Amen, brother. That's the way I see it too.

"He that knoweth to do good and doeth it not...to him it is sin."

Luk 1:79 To give light to them that sit in darkness and [in] the shadow of death, to guide our feet into the way of peace.

Jhn 1:4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

Jhn 3:21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

The coming of the Lord in every soul is as a lightening that shineth out of the East even unto the West. Not as an electral flash as in a lightening storm. That kind of lightening does not shine out of the East even unto the West. That kind just jumps from postively charged clouds to negatively charged earth or clouds. But the kind of lightening that shineth out of the East even unto the West is the coming of the DAY STAR spoken of by Peter that shines in our hearts.

We do not have all the light when the early horns of light lifts up above the distant Eastern horizon. Light progresses to its zenith from one phase to another.

But, it does not have to sink into the West as when darkness approaches at the end of the day. However, it seems that every church goes though that cycle until it dies. See the darkened condition of all the reformed churches before us. Our sun is currently seeking low because we have refused to walk in the light as did all the reformed churches before us.

Nevertheless, from the dying of the old, God always raises up a remnant who will walk in the light of a new day when the Day Star arises in their midst.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Apprehended

Amen, brother. That's the way I see it too.

"He that knoweth to do good and doeth it not...to him it is sin."

Luk 1:79 To give light to them that sit in darkness and [in] the shadow of death, to guide our feet into the way of peace.

Jhn 1:4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

Jhn 3:21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

The coming of the Lord in every soul is as a lightening that shineth out of the East even unto the West. Not as an electral flash as in a lightening storm. That kind of lightening does not shine out of the East even unto the West. That kind just jumps from postively charged clouds to negatively charged earth or clouds. But the kind of lightening that shineth out of the East even unto the West is the coming of the DAY STAR spoken of by Peter that shines in our hearts.

We do not have all the light when the early horns of light lifts up above the distant Eastern horizon. Light progresses to its zenith from one phase to another.

But, it does not have to sink into the West as when darkness approaches at the end of the day. However, it seems that every church goes though that cycle until it dies. See the darkened condition of all the reformed churches before us. Our sun is currently seeking low because we have refused to walk in the light as did all the reformed churches before us.

Nevertheless, from the dying of the old, God always raises up a remnant who will walk in the light of a new day when the Day Star arises in their midst.

While I am in agreement with you in many ways you do raise some serious questions.

Why do people who are "in the light" concerning Jesus name baptism have no light at all when it comes to shirt sleeves or men's facial hair? Shouldn't the same light that reveals Jesus name also reveal just how silly many of our extra-biblical doctrines are?

[Fiyahstarter]

Originally Posted by pelathais

While I am in agreement with you in many ways you do raise some serious questions.

Why do people who are "in the light" concerning Jesus name baptism have no light at all when it comes to shirt sleeves or men's facial hair? Shouldn't the same light that reveals Jesus name also reveal just how silly many of our extra-biblical doctrines are?

Good point.

[Felicity]

Mat 11:30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

Just a quick thought here.....

In this scripture the words "yoke" and "burden" can both relate to a certain set of teachings or 'doctrine'. This is one of the ways Strongs defines the words:

• troublesome laws imposed on one, esp. of the Mosaic law, hence the name is so transferred to the commands of Christ as to contrast them with the commands of the Pharisees which were a veritable 'yoke'; yet even Christ's commands must be submitted to, though easier to be kept.

Therefore it's correct and safe to say that Jesus' doctrine/yoke/burden was "light" particularly compared to that of the Pharisees.

[Barb]

Originally Posted by Felicity

Mat 11:30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

Just a quick thought here.....

In this scripture the words "yoke" and "burden" can both relate to a certain set of teachings or 'doctrine'. This is one of the ways Strongs defines the words:

• troublesome laws imposed on one, esp. of the Mosaic law, hence the name is so transferred to the commands of Christ as to contrast them with the commands of the Pharisees which were a veritable 'yoke'; yet even Christ's commands must be submitted to, though easier to be kept.

Therefore it's correct and safe to say that Jesus' doctrine/yoke/burden was "light" particularly compared to that of the Pharisees.

Good thought, sis...

This Word has been with me for days...

Ps 119:130

130 The entrance of thy words giveth light; it giveth understanding unto the simple.
KJV

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Mrs. LPW

That was well put.
I appreciated it.

The problem I see with the Trinitarians, isn't so much their understanding as it is their not using the Name in baptism.

Obedience to Scripture will always trump our supposed "understanding" of the unknowable.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by pelathais

While I am in agreement with you in many ways you do raise some serious questions.

Why do people who are "in the light" concerning Jesus name baptism have no light at all when it comes to shirt sleeves or men's facial hair? Shouldn't the same light that reveals Jesus name also reveal just how silly many of our extra-biblical doctrines are?

All religious have their traditions.