3 in 1 - I'M MORE ONENESS THAN YOU ARE ...

Originally Posted by sola gratia

well - JESUS was not yet glorified when Thomas saw HIM, and he called HIM GOD, though he was resurrected - not glorified - When JESUS was body - he called HIMSELF the "I AM" - the body says the fullness of the GODHEAD was in him bodily - so I cannot agree with that

in relation to him not being in forms of "distinction" now - Not sure how you can state that

1Co 15:24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
1Co 15:25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
1Co 15:26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
1Co 15:27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.
1Co 15:28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.


This is a futuristic event yet to happen -so I must contend the distinctions at least exist in the now

Is it really a future event or is that how you see it to make it fit your eschatological mold? (borrowed the question form from Daniel Alicea!)

Did the work of the cross not take away the sting of death?

Did not Jesus death bring about the beginning of the Kingdom of God which has been delivered up and is being delivered up on a daily basis?

What if anything is not subject to and under the feet of Jesus?

What is yet to be done by the Son that was not accomplished in the Cross?

I am not looking for the Son of God to return for me. I am looking for God Almighty with no further designation necessary!

[SDG]

Be an original Phil ...

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Be an original Phil ...

Meaning???

[sola gratia]

Originally Posted by philjones

Is it really a future event or is that how you see it to make it fit your eschatological mold? (borrowed the question form from Daniel Alicea!)

Did the work of the cross not take away the sting of death?

Did not Jesus death bring about the beginning of the Kingdom of God which has been delivered up and is being delivered up on a daily basis?

What if anything is not subject to and under the feet of Jesus?

What is yet to be done by the Son that was not accomplished in the Cross?

I am not looking for the Son of God to return for me. I am looking for God Almighty with no further designation necessary!

you need to read the chapter - it is talking about "the end" okay - so your exegesis is off - Lets not throw out context for the sake of our theology

(1 Corinthians 15:22) For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
(1 Corinthians 15:23) But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

message
1Co 15:22 Everybody dies in Adam; everybody comes alive in Christ.
1Co 15:23 But we have to wait our turn: Christ is first, then those with him at his Coming,

the end — the general resurrection, and final judgment and consummation
A Commentary on the Old and New Testaments by Robert Jamieson, A. R. Fausset and David Brown

1Co 15:24 - Then cometh the end,.... Or "after that the end", the end of all things; either at the close of the thousand years, when the wicked dead will be raised last, and the final state of all men will openly take place; the end of the righteous will be peace and everlasting joy, and an uninterrupted communion with Christ
John Gill's Exposition of the Entire Bible
Dr. John Gill (1690-1771)

it is obviously prophetic and a future event ...OBVIOUS

[SDG]

Pretty obvious to me.

Originally Posted by sola gratia

you need to read the chapter - it is talking about "the end" okay - so your exegesis is off - Lets not throw out context for the sake of our theology

(1 Corinthians 15:22) For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
(1 Corinthians 15:23) But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

message
1Co 15:22 Everybody dies in Adam; everybody comes alive in Christ.
1Co 15:23 But we have to wait our turn: Christ is first, then those with him at his Coming,

the end — the general resurrection, and final judgment and consummation
A Commentary on the Old and New Testaments by Robert Jamieson, A. R. Fausset and David Brown

1Co 15:24 - Then cometh the end,.... Or "after that the end", the end of all things; either at the close of the thousand years, when the wicked dead will be raised last, and the final state of all men will openly take place; the end of the righteous will be peace and everlasting joy, and an uninterrupted communion with Christ
John Gill's Exposition of the Entire Bible
Dr. John Gill (1690-1771)

it is obviously prophetic and a future event ...OBVIOUS

If you say so...

[mizpeh]

Originally Posted by Chan

I suspect that angels do have some kind of visible form, though I'm not entirely certain of that.

I tend to look at spiritual things in relation to us. I'm sure angels see each other since they warred against each other and fought over the body of Moses etc. I've never seen an angel like the ones describe in the book of Revelation.

[berkeley]

Originally Posted by mizpeh

I tend to look at spiritual things in relation to us. I'm sure angels see each other since they warred against each other and fought over the body of Moses etc.

uh... "they" ???? how many do you think warred against eachother?

I thought it was only two, Michael and the debbil...

Jude 1:9 (King James Version)
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9Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.

ahh.. but two can be "they".. nvm..

[sola gratia]

Originally Posted by philjones

If you say so...

I do and so does just about every commentary in the WORLD - pretty good company - just read it - it is so obvious

Originally Posted by mizpeh

I tend to look at spiritual things in relation to us. I'm sure angels see each other since they warred against each other and fought over the body of Moses etc. I've never seen an angel like the ones describe in the book of Revelation.

For me, the "how does this relate to us humans" (or, more specifically, to the Church or to me individually) come later. Thus, where the Bible mentions angels, I take it to mean exactly as it is written unless there is something in the passage itself that indicates I should take it another way.