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mizpeh · #**231** 03-01-2007, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Chan

I think your use of hypostasis (or its plural, hypostases) here is inaccurate since that Greek word suggests individual beings or (dare I say it) "persons."

I thought most Trinitarians believe in 3 hypostasis' in one homoousious.

#**232** 03-01-2007, 07:39 PM

One of the most striking and telling aspects of early church history is found in the actions taken by trinitarian "Christians" towards oneness believers.

Not one ounce of true Christianity in it. Very telling.

SDG · #**233** 03-01-2007, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Theophilus

One of the most striking and telling aspects of early church history is found in the actions taken by trinitarian "Christians" towards oneness believers.

Not one ounce of true Christianity in it. Very telling.

SO ... We're the victims????

mizpeh · #**234** 03-01-2007, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Truly Blessed

You have seen the Father to the extent that flesh can see the Father. How do you suppose angels and the Father interact and see each other in the heavenlies. As I have said, the highest existence is spirit being. We are spirit, soul, and body. We are limited at the present by our flesh, but when we are released from the flesh, we will exist at the highest level of our being, which will be the same level as other spirit beings including God. I admit that we humans have a hard time to imagine that existence and rightly so. But it is the limitation of our flesh that causes us so much misunderstanding about the Godhead. We are still seeing through a glass darkly, but then face to face.

I don't believe the angels see God in heaven. I think they see God when they see the Son of God. 1 Tim 3:16 My understanding of God is that He is an invisible Spirit that fills all heaven and earth, the heaven of heavens cannot contain Him. In Him we live and move and have our being. He is the same everywhere at the same time. Because of this, God does not have eyes, a right hand, feet, a face, etc, these human body parts attributed to God are for us to understand Him and are called anthropomorphisms. The right hand of God is figurative for a place of power and authority.

I'm not sure what you mean by our spirit existence. When released from this mortal human body, we'll await our immortal human body and then we'll be like Jesus.

#**235** 03-01-2007, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

SO ... We're the victims????

It's an interesting study.

Who was/is the victim is purely dependant on one's point of view.

Ultimately, the wolves will be the "victim" of the Master Shepherd's wrath.

The sheep slain have become more powerful than the wolves could possibly imagine.

SDG · #**236** 03-01-2007, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Theophilus

It's an interesting study.

Who was/is the victim is purely dependant on one's point of view.

Ultimately, the wolves will be the "victim" of the Master Shepherd's wrath.

The sheep slain have become more powerful than the wolves could possibly imagine.

Theo ... you are artfully dodging the question ... you obviously have a view on who the victims are ...

but are there not victims on both sides since the "new issue"?

#**237** 03-01-2007, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Theo ... you are artfully dodging the question ... you obviously have a view on who the victims are ...

but are there not victims on both sides since the "new issue"?

I answered the question.

So many trins want to refer to early church history when they run out of Bible to try and support Polytheism. In doing so, they reveal the true spirit that their early father's were of. They were not of God, that much is painfully clear, no pun intended.

Again, who was and now is the victim is per one's point of view.

You'll have to expound on your "new" question to get an answer.

SDG · #**238** 03-01-2007, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Theophilus

I answered the question.

So many trins want to refer to early church history when they run out of Bible to try and support Polytheism. In doing so, they reveal the true spirit that their early father's were of. They were not of God, that much is painfully clear, no pun intended.

Again, who was and now is the victim is per one's point of view.

You'll have to expound on your "new" question to get an answer.

Are there victims on both sides of this debate since the last century, Theo?

#**239** 03-01-2007, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Are there victims on both sides of this debate since the last century, Theo?

Well, that is some clarification, though I'm not sure exactly what you mean by victim.

In the last century, the only "victims" that I see, if I get your meaning, are those that have fallen prey to falsity.

SDG · #**240** 03-01-2007, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Theophilus

Well, that is some clarification, though I'm not sure exactly what you mean by victim.

In the last century, the only "victims" that I see, if I get your meaning, are those that have fallen prey to falsity.

You mean both sides haven't verbally and emotionally slayed one another ...