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03-01-2007, 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Truly Blessed
Augustine himself was not comfortable with the term "person" in reference to the Father and Holy Ghost. He wrote, "When we use the term "persons" we do not mean "individuals". I realize that some Trinitarians have developed this idea of three "persons" meaning "individuals", but that was not the thought being expressed by Augustine, according to his own writings.
I think that on the other hand many Oneness people have gone to the opposite extreme of believing only in the existence of Jesus Christ, which is contrary to NT teaching. God (Father) is not just a substance, He is a being, albeit a spirit being, with intelligence and attributes that are manifested in the human being He created. As a spirit being, which is the highest form of existence even for ourselves, we see over and over again God taking on various forms of matter. Sometimes as fire, wind, cloud, etc. We know that He took on form that was visible to Adam and Eve in Eden, and they heard Him walking in the garden. He has voice and able to interact with man. Jesus declared on more than one occasion that He had seen the Father, so we know that the Father is a being who can be seen. John saw Him seated in heaven. Obvious what he saw was not a person, but let's not forget that man was made in the image of God. So what is that spirit image that was replicated in man?
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Truly Blessed has stated truth ... some have gone to the extreme of only believing in the existence of Jesus Christ.
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03-01-2007, 01:04 AM
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Go Dodgers!
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I am South of Nor Cal and North of So Cal... and I looove iced tea (sweet tea), fried chicken, and I say "y'all" !!!!  |
You're confused maybe?
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03-01-2007, 01:06 AM
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You're confused maybe?
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about what, location?
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03-01-2007, 01:06 AM
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about what, location?
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No ... watch it .. Berk ... he's about to go Oneness Ninja on you ....
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03-01-2007, 01:08 AM
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No ... watch it .. Berk ... he's about to go Oneness Ninja on you ....
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Naw man... he's not.. lol
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03-01-2007, 01:11 AM
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Good night J, Berk, Jekyll, and Prax ... God bless you and remember ...
I'M MORE ONENESS THAN ALL OF Y'ALL!!!!!!!!!! COMBINED.
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03-01-2007, 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
Good night J, Berk, Jekyll, and Prax ... God bless you and remember ...
IM MORE ONENESS THAN ALL OF Y'ALL!!!!!!!!!!
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naw..
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03-01-2007, 01:26 AM
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Go Dodgers!
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
Good night J, Berk, Jekyll, and Prax ... God bless you and remember ...
I'M MORE ONENESS THAN ALL OF Y'ALL!!!!!!!!!! COMBINED.
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In your dreams
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03-01-2007, 01:26 AM
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Go Dodgers!
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Nite, Im out
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03-01-2007, 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Truly Blessed
Augustine himself was not comfortable with the term "person" in reference to the Father and Holy Ghost. He wrote, "When we use the term "persons" we do not mean "individuals". I realize that some Trinitarians have developed this idea of three "persons" meaning "individuals", but that was not the thought being expressed by Augustine, according to his own writings.
I think that on the other hand many Oneness people have gone to the opposite extreme of believing only in the existence of Jesus Christ, which is contrary to NT teaching. God (Father) is not just a substance, He is a being, albeit a spirit being, with intelligence and attributes that are manifested in the human being He created. As a spirit being, which is the highest form of existence even for ourselves, we see over and over again God taking on various forms of matter. Sometimes as fire, wind, cloud, etc. We know that He took on form that was visible to Adam and Eve in Eden, and they heard Him walking in the garden. He has voice and able to interact with man. Jesus declared on more than one occasion that He had seen the Father, so we know that the Father is a being who can be seen. John saw Him seated in heaven. Obvious what he saw was not a person, but let's not forget that man was made in the image of God. So what is that spirit image that was replicated in man?
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No man has seen God. Jesus is the express image of God the Father. When you see Jesus, you have seen the Father.
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