Wedding Rings

Originally Posted by Trouvere

Yes and Jesus already bought this one for us.The price was blood and its already been refined by fire.

Sis...

Are you seriously trying to make me shout VICTORY? If so, you are doing a pretty good job of it.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Truly Blessed

It may not mention it there, but God certainly appoved of it as adorment when speaking of Jerusalem in His allegory of her as a beautiful woman with whom He was pleased.

Yes, jewelry has been associated with sinful practices, but nowhere has God shown an attitude of being against jewelry in itself. Just as money is not evil in itself, but the love of and use of money can be, so jewelry is not evil in itself, but our attitude towards and use of it can be.

There simply is nothing in Scripture to support the view that gold, silver, and jewelry was never meant to be enjoyed by the children of God. But I know you could never admit that.

Originally Posted by Brother Strange

You missed his point.

The bride IS the city thorougly adorned with gold and jewelry.

God wants us to bear his reproach, exiting the (camp) perishing city having no gold and jewelry into the city that is so adorned, for here, we have no continuing city, they are slated to perish. Let us also come out of the city (camp) bearing his reproach. See Heb. 13:13 - 14.

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Nooo, it's the CITY that is called the bride

Rev 21:9 And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will show thee the bride, the Lamb's wife.
Rev 21:10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and showed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,

It has become abundantly clear Elder that your EXTRABIBLICAL POSITION on this issue is based on man made paradigms and tradition ....

there is no way your view is defensible ... other than saying it is a personal conviction.

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

It has become abundantly clear Elder that your EXTRABIBLICAL POSITION on this issue is based on man made paradigms and tradition ....

there is no way your view is defensible ... other than saying it is a personal conviction.

Aaaaah....

Yes. It is the classic "bait and switch" tactic.

John was promised to be shown the bride but all he got a look at was a city.

Little bait and switch with a little bit of NEW revelation thrown in with the bait and switch and PRESTO, you have a NEW doctrine.

Kinda reminds me of two hippies in one sleeping bag to not coin a phrase.

[Trouvere]

Originally Posted by Brother Strange

Sis...

Are you seriously trying to make me shout VICTORY? If so, you are doing a pretty good job of it.

Amen I am and then if the truth would come out the entire Bride would shout!
The Tabernacle of David in our midst with Jesus and man no longer separate.

[Truly Blessed]

Originally Posted by Trouvere

If I remember right those jewels are representative of something else besides jewelry.
Gold....divinity
Pearls...tribulation
etc.
can I get a witness????

Not from me!!!

[Trouvere]

Originally Posted by Truly Blessed

Not from me!!!

yeah you probably still preach that you are going to walk on cold metal streets right?

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Brother Strange

Interesting.

Do we now have a NEW REVELATION?

The church is NOT the CITY of God.

Therefore the CHURCH is NOT the Bride.

Jesus did not mean it when he said that YE are a city set upon a hill.

The writer of Hebrews did not understand it either:

Hbr 12:22 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,


Hbr 12:23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,

Oh well, I suppose John did not understand it either when he was told that he would be shown the Lamb's wife but he was tricked. He was shown a city...full of jewels....

This is NOT new I have NEVER believed the city in Rev. 21 is the church. Are you saying the city is the church TODAY?????????????????
The Bride lives in the city that is her home. You go see someone in their home nothing deep about that.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Trouvere

yeah you probably still preach that you are going to walk on cold metal streets right?

I DO I believe the street is gold and the gates are pearl and so forth. It is a literal city. I have heard a few teach it was the church but not very many. Most scholars I have read believe the city is the abode of the church NOT the church.

[Trouvere]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

I DO I believe the street is gold and the gates are pearl and so forth. It is a literal city. I have heard a few teach it was the church but not very many. Most scholars I have read believe the city is the abode of the church NOT the church.

That is right and to go on:


Rev 21:1 ¶ And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.


Rev 21:2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.


Rev 21:3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God [is] with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, [and be] their God. this specifically states who will dwell in the city which is stated to be adorned as a bride.It does not say this is the bride but adorned as a bride.


Rev 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.


Rev 21:5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.


Rev 21:6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.


Rev 21:7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.


Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Originally Posted by Just a Shepherd

At our church married people are expected to wear wedding rings. Would you put yours on so as not to offend us (assuming you were to come here) or is it a one way street?

Honestly, I had not worn a ring since entering church so the answer would be no. Would I refuse for my wife? That is her decision.
If someone is offended because of my personal conviction, doesn't that indicate that they are a bit weak in their own?
NI