Wedding Rings

[Felicity]

Originally Posted by NobodyImportant

Just curious as to why you do not think a pastor should have the authority to determine things for the congregation.

The apostles did.

Paul told them what would be appropriate and what wouldn't in regard to many issues, but he also left some things for them to decide and figure out for themselves. In regard to a lot of things Paul didn't deal in specifics; whereas in other areas he was very clear and pointed.


Why are people so afraid of "thou shalt nots" anymore? Or are they really?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

I understand that there were things that God allowed...but in many cases jewels, fine raiment, gold, etc., seem to be things He actually endorsed.

Also, the prodigal son...his father put a ring on his finger and fine clothing. (NT example)

I just don't see how wearing jewelry was cast in a negative light in the OT or the NT, except in reference to not being excessive, and modesty.

that is correct. God endorsed it, not merely permitted it, but USING it to describe Israel His beloved. God also is seen taking her jewels when Israel is bad.

Modesty, attitudes, where your heart is at, what gods you serve, the love of money, greed etc etc. THOSE are the issues. God told the pharisees "You honer me with your lips, but your heart is far from me"

And if we followed the golden rule about loving others then we quite frankly in my opinion, would be more concerned with the needs of our brothers and sisters spiritually,financially, emotionally and physically than worrying about sister so and so who is wearing a wedding band nor would we ourselves focus on costly items with a wrong attitude.

If people were trained to seek the Lord themselves with honest and open hearts consistantly and read the word and be willing to do whatever God wants them to do then we should not have to worry about making laws for them to explicitly follow

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Whole Hearted

It is not put where anyone can see it. It is not wore for ornamentaion, it is concluded in a pocket. If you want to carry a weeding ring around in your pocket I guess that would be alright. I still have my class ring in a drawer, but not on my finger.

define "ornamentation" please...are you implying that merely wearing something that can be seen is an ornament? Shoes are ornaments? jackets? Ties? underw....uh....shirts?

[Felicity]

Originally Posted by Felicity

Why are people so afraid of "thou shalt nots" anymore? Or are they really?

I think a lot of people have no problem with "thou shalt not" as long as it's something that doesn't go against their grain. When it does, "thou shalt not" becomes a very grievous thing to bear.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

But in various times of revival and dedication in Isreal's history they took of their jewelry that is there also.

From what I see they took off their jewelry to go a whoring after false gods like when they made a golden calf. Had they kept it on they would not have made that false god.

God stripped her of her jewels when she backslid.....hmmm

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by NobodyImportant

Just curious as to why you do not think a pastor should have the authority to determine things for the congregation.

Because the bible never says "The Pastor shalt make up rules and laws for his own congregation that are not biblical"?

[BrotherEastman]

Originally Posted by Whole Hearted

There are certain people who don't consider pants on women, make-up, worldly entertainment, ungodly dress, worldly music, go to ballgames, being married 2 or 3 or 4 times all the while claiming to be in church, and on and on to be sin. But it is still sin and always will be.

True, but not every conservative agrees with you, when it comes to wedding rings. The other things that you mentioned, the conservative ministers agree with. I think what we need to discuss, is wether or not the purpose of a wedding ring is sinful. Would you say that it was just as sinful to not be a witness?

[BrotherEastman]

Originally Posted by Felicity

The apostles did.

Paul told them what would be appropriate and what wouldn't in regard to many issues, but he also left some things for them to decide and figure out for themselves. In regard to a lot of things Paul didn't deal in specifics; whereas in other areas he was very clear and pointed.


Why are people so afraid of "thou shalt nots" anymore? Or are they really?

Exactly, the Apostle Paul gave instructions on how to live for God based upon his Old Testament knowledge.

[BrotherEastman]

Does anyone else want to add anything???? Anyone?????

[berkeley]

Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

Does anyone else want to add anything???? Anyone?????

Quit raising the dead!