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Old 09-03-2008, 07:24 AM
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Re: Letter from Bro. Chester Wright to Bro. Haney

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I haven't read all 45 pages. I read the first 4 pages and then the last 2 pages (not enough time or energy to read all of them). However, I have say my two cents here about what people are saying about Bishop Chester Wright.

I cannot believe you would bash a man (and don't say that isn't what you were doing) that you don't know. First, has anyone substantiated that this letter was from him? If you really want to know, I'll go up and ask him on Sunday. I go to his church. You talk about how the "older generation" needs to become more relevant and how he is saying all this stuff in this letter (which you don't even know is truly his) because he is old and not relevant. Well, first, about myself - I am 30 years old and wasn't raised in the truth so I'm not old and not just getting this from my parents/family.

Our church has awesome outreach to our communities. We have a homeless outreach where we do Bible studies weekly at McD's and buy them food during it. They are picked up for every service. We have a food giveaway weekly to whomever in the community needs it. We have Bible studies and services in about 5-10 local prisons (don't know the exact #) and have for MANY years (also don't know that #). We have over 20 daughter works, 2-4 of them are in different languages. We offer interpreting to around 5-7 languages if anyone needs it for the evening services. Our youth groups go out almost weekly and go out into the communities and do witnessing. I think they have taken youth they met on the street and baptized in the river (bay). We do Bible studies on around 10 college campuses in the area. We do a huge free carnival on Halloween night (alternative) for the community. This is just a SMALL fraction of what we do to reach out.

I didn't say any of this to brag, but just to give another perspective to those who seem so set in their negative beliefs towards him. He is my bishop and I honor and respect him highly.

I rarely post any more, but I want to speak up and commend you for this articulate and passionate defense of one of the greatest men of God I know.

Bishop Wright has been a friend to me, and his burden for the lost doesn't take a backseat to anybody's.

Antioch is an amazing church, and does as much to reach its community as any church in our fellowship. All without compromising the message.

Way to go, friend. Stand up for the man of God in your life...guard your gift.

You'll get mocked by the retreads, but God honors that attitude.
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Old 09-03-2008, 07:28 AM
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Re: Letter from Bro. Chester Wright to Bro. Haney

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I haven't read all 45 pages. I read the first 4 pages and then the last 2 pages (not enough time or energy to read all of them). However, I have say my two cents here about what people are saying about Bishop Chester Wright.

I cannot believe you would bash a man (and don't say that isn't what you were doing) that you don't know. First, has anyone substantiated that this letter was from him? If you really want to know, I'll go up and ask him on Sunday. I go to his church. You talk about how the "older generation" needs to become more relevant and how he is saying all this stuff in this letter (which you don't even know is truly his) because he is old and not relevant. Well, first, about myself - I am 30 years old and wasn't raised in the truth so I'm not old and not just getting this from my parents/family.

Our church has awesome outreach to our communities. We have a homeless outreach where we do Bible studies weekly at McD's and buy them food during it. They are picked up for every service. We have a food giveaway weekly to whomever in the community needs it. We have Bible studies and services in about 5-10 local prisons (don't know the exact #) and have for MANY years (also don't know that #). We have over 20 daughter works, 2-4 of them are in different languages. We offer interpreting to around 5-7 languages if anyone needs it for the evening services. Our youth groups go out almost weekly and go out into the communities and do witnessing. I think they have taken youth they met on the street and baptized in the river (bay). We do Bible studies on around 10 college campuses in the area. We do a huge free carnival on Halloween night (alternative) for the community. This is just a SMALL fraction of what we do to reach out.

I didn't say any of this to brag, but just to give another perspective to those who seem so set in their negative beliefs towards him. He is my bishop and I honor and respect him highly.

I think it would be great if you ask him on Sunday if he wrote this letter. If he did, the next question would be "Have you spoken to MJ personally about this?" If not, why?

If he did not write the letter, then we need to find out who did, and that person needs to be brought before a board.

Either way, if you find out, can you please let us know?

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Old 09-03-2008, 07:33 AM
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Re: Letter from Bro. Chester Wright to Bro. Haney

I personally think there is little doubt that he wrote the letter.

And I haven't asked him, but I strongly suspect he probably HAS spoken to the brother in question.

It would be like him.
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Old 09-03-2008, 07:59 AM
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I personally think there is little doubt that he wrote the letter.

And I haven't asked him, but I strongly suspect he probably HAS spoken to the brother in question.

It would be like him.
I agree Amos. He would go first to any brother he had qualms with. He is not someone who would hesitate to do this as he fervently believes in following what the Bible says and this would be go to the person in question first.

Thank you for your response. I went through and read my post and realized I could have been clearer, but that's what I get for posting WAY too late at night.

I thank God for our Bishop & Pastor. Those men are among the greatest men of God I know and I am honored to know them. They teach the truth 100% without compromise. I wasn't saved at this church and have seen churches (way too many) either compromise to "win" souls (boost their attendance) or become so inner-focused that they forget about the lost world out there and the purpose they were saved for.
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Old 09-03-2008, 08:07 AM
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Re: Letter from Bro. Chester Wright to Bro. Haney

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I rarely post any more, but I want to spak up and commend you for this articulate and passionate defense of one of the greatest men of God I know.

Bishop Wright has been a friend to me, and his burden for the lost doesn't take a backseat to anybody's.

Antioch is an amazing church, and does as much to reach its community as any church in our fellowship. All without compromising the message.

Way to go, friend. Stand up for the man of God in your life...guard your gift.

You'll get mocked by the retreads, but God honors that attitude.
You know what bothers me? If anyone questions the motive of another on this forum, they're attacking the person.

Show me one post where anyone has attacked CW or bashed him. Seems to me that the only posts directed "against" him were ones questioning the way he handled the situation, not that he is inherently a bad man.

I don't think there is anyone on this forum, at least not from what I've seen, who would question what CW has done for the kingdom. CW has done a great work, and I have no doubt that he pastors a great church. However, is he immune from questioning? I don't think so.

Furthermore, I don't think anyone has to apologize for questioning the motives of a leader. If they do it respectfully, that leader, nor his loyal followers, should not be threatened.
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Old 09-03-2008, 08:11 AM
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When you're right/Wright when it comes to truth, none of that matters. Ethics can be bypassed at any time when you're defending truth.
Exhibit A.
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Old 09-03-2008, 08:13 AM
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I questioned this also. How is the letter public? If I were Haney in a business situtation and someone under me made such a letter public he would be fired! In a church government setting I would give him one chance and if he ever did it again he would not be a "superintendant" for me......

Exhibit B.
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Thanks Amos!
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Old 09-03-2008, 08:19 AM
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Thanks Amos!
You are most welcome...

Just a couple of examples from the first few pages of the thread.

I don't have sufficient interest to read it all and document all the posts that fit the bill.
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Old 09-03-2008, 08:20 AM
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You know what bothers me? If anyone questions the motive of another on this forum, they're attacking the person.Show me one post where anyone has attacked CW or bashed him. Seems to me that the only posts directed "against" him were ones questioning the way he handled the situation, not that he is inherently a bad man.

I don't think there is anyone on this forum, at least not from what I've seen, who would question what CW has done for the kingdom. CW has done a great work, and I have no doubt that he pastors a great church. However, is he immune from questioning? I don't think so.

Furthermore, I don't think anyone has to apologize for questioning the motives of a leader. If they do it respectfully, that leader, nor his loyal followers, should not be threatened.
Brother, this bothers me also.

The exhibits shown are simply someone questioning what has taken place.
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