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Old 08-28-2008, 08:32 AM
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Re: Letter from Bro. Chester Wright to Bro. Haney

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Wasn't there an element of 3 steppers who didn't believe the 1 steppers were saved?

Didn't that element of 3 steppers grow and begin to squelch the voice of the 1 steppers?

Haven't the 3 steppers more or less silenced the 1 steppers?

Sounds like an unequal yoke to me..

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So anyone that doesn't believe exactly like you is considered an unbeliever to you?
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So anyone that doesn't believe exactly like you is considered an unbeliever to you?
If thats the case... she is gonna be the only one in Heaven? cuz the upc and wpf and everywhere else.. .no one is exactly the same... nope
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Old 08-28-2008, 08:53 AM
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If thats the case... she is gonna be the only one in Heaven? cuz the upc and wpf and everywhere else.. .no one is exactly the same... nope
I just hate seeing that scripture misused - it's talking about believers and unbelievers - light and darkness.
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I just hate seeing that scripture misused - it's talking about believers and unbelievers - light and darkness.
I believe this is true.
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Old 08-28-2008, 12:44 PM
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I just hate seeing that scripture misused - it's talking about believers and unbelievers - light and darkness.
You are so cotton pickin picky! Expecting scripture to be used in context. Good grief, what is wrong with you woman?
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Nina, it didn't start out that way. Both 3 & 1 steppers respected each other and even put a statement in the AOF that stated basically, that no one would "promote" their own views to the disunity of the body." That was specifically pointed at the 2 main views of Ac. 2:38.

What you say above is exactly what has happened and is still continuing to happen. So sad......especially since our world is such a sad condition.

The "fisherman" are arguing about the exact MOMENT a fish is actually IN the boat. Is it when his head goes over the gunwale? Is it halfway? Is it when his tail goes over? Or is it when it lands on the bottom of the boat?

There is so much arguing over this that they have forgotten about the fish. They convene conferences and hold meetings and pass resolutions and demand signed statements all about when the fish is actually IN the boat. If they would just get out on the water and catch the fish and celebrate with each other that they have fish in the boat instead of arguing about it, there would be so many fish in the boat that everyone would have to get more boats!!

Wouldn't that be terrible!

And God forbid if you actually start filling your boat! Then you'll come under question because you must not be doing something right or you're doing something you're not supposed to or your "doctrine" is off.

God must certainly weep over this foolishness!
Once again, I wholeheartedly agree!

Wanna know what I think is holding us back... God is DISPLEASED with the way we treat each other.

RELEVANCE??? (choke, choke)... We can't even relate to each other.... how are we EVER supposed to relate to non-believers???

I am so thankful my salvation is not dependent on my brothers!!! They'd surely crucify me.
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Old 08-28-2008, 05:26 PM
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If you love me, keep my commandments. Jesus has given us a "do"....keep His commandments.
Obeying those commandments isn't proving our love for Christ anymore than obeying one's parents means the children love them.

Commandments are just that.....commandments.

Although I don't believe one love's Christ if they don't keep His commandments.

It's almost a paradox of statements, actually. However, we are all commanded to do them whether we love God or not.
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Don't use grace in the context of discussing hair and clothes, it only confuses the issue.
SORRY! LOL!

I'll be sure and switch sides to let you know how unholy you are when that times comes!!

Oh, wait...my name is HO, not Bi.....

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So anyone that doesn't believe exactly like you is considered an unbeliever to you?
To quote Bro Eply:

"The 1945 merger. The PAJC should have never compromised their message. It would have been better to have had the two groups with their distinctions.
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This Spirit has always been in the UPC from the beginning: an unequal yoke.



It's not what I believe but what THEY believed.

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To quote Bro Eply:

"The 1945 merger. The PAJC should have never compromised their message. It would have been better to have had the two groups with their distinctions.
My thoughts."


This Spirit has always been in the UPC from the beginning: an unequal yoke.



It's not what I believe but what THEY believed.

Nina
Once again, unequal yoke means believers vs. unbelievers - - not just believe differently.
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