Letter from Bro. Chester Wright to Bro. Haney

[Carpenter]

Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne

Nowhere in scripture does it indicate that we must 'do' things to show our love for Christ.

We are to obey and follow scripture, working out our own salvation, trusting in the grace and mercy of Jesus Christ.

There's nothing more I can do to show God how much I love Him. Nothing. All my righteousness is as filthy rags.

God doesn't want my hair. He doesn't want my clothes.

He wants my heart. He has it.

Don't use grace in the context of discussing hair and clothes, it only confuses the issue.

[mizpeh]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

I see a difference in "do" and "keep"

What's the difference?


Here's one example: Jesus commanded us to love one another as He loved us.

But whoso hath this world's good, and seeth his brother have need, and shutteth up his bowels of compassion from him, how dwelleth the love of God in him? 1 John 3:17


Can you see how "doing" is involved in "keeping"?

or here: James 2:1 My brethren, have not the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory, with respect of persons. 2 For if there come unto your assembly a man with a gold ring, in goodly apparel, and there come in also a poor man in vile raiment; 3 And ye have respect to him that weareth the gay clothing, and say unto him, Sit thou here in a good place; and say to the poor, Stand thou there, or sit here under my footstool: 4 Are ye not then partial in yourselves, and are become judges of evil thoughts? ...

8 If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well: 9 But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.

Love is evidenced by works. God commended his love toward us in while we were yet sinners Christ died for us. Keeping involves an active obeying of HIs commandments.

Matt 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

[RevDWW]

Originally Posted by Amos

I guess the only lines that matter are the so-called "heaven or hell" issues.

What a love relationship that indicates...

That wasn't the intent of my question. There are many lines of personal conviction and corporate standard that are good and helpful they just are not the test for holiness nor eternal habitation.

A deep love for the Lord will lead folks to do what legalism can not.

[Carpenter]

Originally Posted by mizpeh

If you love me, keep my commandments. Jesus has given us a "do"....keep His commandments.

...and what commandment deals with the hair and womens wearing pantsuits issue?

[mizpeh]

Originally Posted by Carpenter

...and what commandment deals with the hair and womens wearing pantsuits issue?

What? am I off topic again?

[RevDWW]

Originally Posted by mizpeh

What's the difference?


Here's one example: Jesus commanded us to love one another as He loved us.

But whoso hath this world's good, and seeth his brother have need, and shutteth up his bowels of compassion from him, how dwelleth the love of God in him? 1 John 3:17


Can you see how "doing" is involved in "keeping"?

or here: James 2:1 My brethren, have not the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory, with respect of persons. 2 For if there come unto your assembly a man with a gold ring, in goodly apparel, and there come in also a poor man in vile raiment; 3 And ye have respect to him that weareth the gay clothing, and say unto him, Sit thou here in a good place; and say to the poor, Stand thou there, or sit here under my footstool: 4 Are ye not then partial in yourselves, and are become judges of evil thoughts? ...

8 If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well: 9 But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.

Love is evidenced by works. God commended his love toward us in while we were yet sinners Christ died for us. Keeping involves an active obeying of HIs commandments.

Matt 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

Good stuff. Belief is not true faith if not coupled with action.

Love in action is the fulfilling of the Law and Prophets.

[Sister Alvear]

Judgment day will bring a lot of surprizes especially to those that always are sitting on the judgment seat pointing their finger at others...for we will be judged according to how we judge. I want to be merciful for I know I need and will need lots of His mercy to hear Him say, "well done."

[Nina]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

They might have seen things differently, but they certainly weren't unbelievers which is what that scripture is about.

Wasn't there an element of 3 steppers who didn't believe the 1 steppers were saved?

Didn't that element of 3 steppers grow and begin to squelch the voice of the 1 steppers?

Haven't the 3 steppers more or less silenced the 1 steppers?

Sounds like an unequal yoke to me..

Nina

[ManOfWord]

Originally Posted by Nina

Wasn't there an element of 3 steppers who didn't believe the 1 steppers were saved?

Didn't that element of 3 steppers grow and begin to squelch the voice of the 1 steppers?

Haven't the 3 steppers more or less silenced the 1 steppers?

Sounds like an unequal yoke to me..

Nina

Nina, it didn't start out that way. Both 3 & 1 steppers respected each other and even put a statement in the AOF that stated basically, that no one would "promote" their own views to the disunity of the body." That was specifically pointed at the 2 main views of Ac. 2:38.

What you say above is exactly what has happened and is still continuing to happen. So sad......especially since our world is such a sad condition.

The "fisherman" are arguing about the exact MOMENT a fish is actually IN the boat. Is it when his head goes over the gunwale? Is it halfway? Is it when his tail goes over? Or is it when it lands on the bottom of the boat?

There is so much arguing over this that they have forgotten about the fish. They convene conferences and hold meetings and pass resolutions and demand signed statements all about when the fish is actually IN the boat. If they would just get out on the water and catch the fish and celebrate with each other that they have fish in the boat instead of arguing about it, there would be so many fish in the boat that everyone would have to get more boats!!

Wouldn't that be terrible!

And God forbid if you actually start filling your boat! Then you'll come under question because you must not be doing something right or you're doing something you're not supposed to or your "doctrine" is off.

God must certainly weep over this foolishness!

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by mizpeh

What's the difference?


Here's one example: Jesus commanded us to love one another as He loved us.

But whoso hath this world's good, and seeth his brother have need, and shutteth up his bowels of compassion from him, how dwelleth the love of God in him? 1 John 3:17


Can you see how "doing" is involved in "keeping"?

or here: James 2:1 My brethren, have not the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory, with respect of persons. 2 For if there come unto your assembly a man with a gold ring, in goodly apparel, and there come in also a poor man in vile raiment; 3 And ye have respect to him that weareth the gay clothing, and say unto him, Sit thou here in a good place; and say to the poor, Stand thou there, or sit here under my footstool: 4 Are ye not then partial in yourselves, and are become judges of evil thoughts? ...

8 If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well: 9 But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.

Love is evidenced by works. God commended his love toward us in while we were yet sinners Christ died for us. Keeping involves an active obeying of HIs commandments.

Matt 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

Makes sense.