This is the funniest thing I've read here in a long, long time!
I think I've mentioned this before: I saw an ad for an inspirational poster once, entitled "Quality". There were at least 3, maybe 4, grammar and punctuation errors in the text! (I really wish I'd bought one. Never saw the ad again. Hmm. Maybe I'll print and frame WH's post! )
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Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty
THIS is what's wrong with your attitude. Your posts reveal that you are of the group spoken of by Jesus as being whited sepulchres full of dead men's bones, my friend. Your only knock against MJ is that he doesn't preach against short sleeves. Just as you stated in another thread on this forum that facial hair is a heaven or hell issue. You have taken things that have no scriptural backing, you've added to the Word by making them salvational issues, and worse yet, you use them as a barometer of how much better you are than the poor hypocrites who do not see things the way you do. This is why I would hate to be in your shoes.
You are speaking against an Apostolic preacher, NOT for preaching the trinity, or preaching universal salvation, but for preaching that sleeve length and skirt length are not the measure of holiness.
Your self righteousness stinks to the high heavens, my friend, and I, for one, desire no further communication.
Oh, and the comment about misspelled words??????? Go back and read most of your posts. That comment right there proves my point - you're focused on the toothpick in someone else's eye, while you have a telephone pole sticking out of yours.
Now look whose playing God.
You know every one's attitude and thoughts. You have set yourself up as my judge and jury and found me guilty.
Do you like every UPC preacher?
I doubt it very seriously.
Then why can I not disagree with MJ. I did not like his attitude and message at camp. I was there and heard it first hand.
I am not your friend thank you. You are on a totally different road than I am.
My bible tell me not to have fellowship with darkness.
This place is no longer an Apostolic forum but one full of false doctrine, backsliders and reprobate.
Now let the banning began.
You know every one's attitude and thoughts. You have set yourself up as my judge and jury and found me guilty.
Do you like every UPC preacher?
I doubt it very seriously.
Then why can I not disagree with MJ. I did not like his attitude and message at camp. I was there and heard it first hand.
I am not your friend thank you. You are on a totally different road than I am.
My bible tell me not to have fellowship with darkness.
This place is no longer an Apostolic forum but one full of false doctrine, backsliders and reprobate.
Now let the banning began.
First, I don't have to discern much to know your attitude, you reveal it with your very words. From the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaketh.
Second, you are correct, I am on a very different road than you, and for that, I'm quite grateful.
Third, if we are such backsliders, reprobates(I'm assuming you meant that in the plural, although you typed it in the singular. Unless you think there is only one reprobate on the forum) then why don't you do the honorable thing and leave? You were the one who said you were to have no fellowship with darkness.
Fourth, the banning will not begin(not began, that's past tense). We will not ban you for being self-righteous, that's between you and God.
However, as I said, if we're that bad, maybe you should ban yourself to keep from rubbing shoulders with us sinners!
__________________ "Many people view their relationship with God like a "color by number" picture. It's easier to let someone else define the boundaries, tell them which blanks to fill in, and what color to use than it is for them to take a blank canvas and seek inspiration from the Source in order to paint their own masterpiece"
First, I don't have to discern much to know your attitude, you reveal it with your very words. From the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaketh.
Second, you are correct, I am on a very different road than you, and for that, I'm quite grateful.
Third, if we are such backsliders, reprobates(I'm assuming you meant that in the plural, although you typed it in the singular. Unless you think there is only one reprobate on the forum) then why don't you do the honorable thing and leave? You were the one who said you were to have no fellowship with darkness.
Fourth, the banning will not begin(not began, that's past tense). We will not ban you for being self-righteous, that's between you and God.
However, as I said, if we're that bad, maybe you should ban yourself to keep from rubbing shoulders with us sinners!
Mike, you have to understand this about "Wholehearted."
Yeah, he's holier than anybody on this board but he doesn't mind telling a convenient lie when he needs to.
I caught him redhanded.
He posted on NFCF under the name: "Ole Time Preacher" and of course his posts were nothing but the same harangues and superfluous amens to some other radical posting nonsense.
Then he wrote a "good-bye cruel world" post about how his wife and family preached to him that he should not hang around on a message board with such reprobates so he was leaving for good.
THEN he came back under the name "Wholehearted."
Now, nothing wrong with that.
Just admit that you didn't have the character to stay away.
He categorically denied he was the former "Ole Time Preacher" but any idiot could see through it: "Wholehearted" posted about his daughter singing, (I'm sure she sings well; I'm leaving her out of this - just giving an example) - him being from East Texas etc. etc. and then lo and behold - the IP addresses matched.
But yet, in PMs and on this board he said he never posted on NFCF under another name.
"Wholehearted", I'm going to remind you of this every time you come back with this nonsense.
Now, since you are some super holiness preacher, I'm sure you know that "All liars shall have their part in the lake of fire."
It requires just a "yes" or "no" answer, Wholhearted.
Have you repented of that lie you told?
See Mike, I guess he's so caught up in no smoke at a youth conference, no TV advertising, etc. that he strained at a gnat and swallowed a camel and forgot about lying being a sin.
But I'm sure he's going to come back and repent because he doesn't want to go to hell. ; )
I'd prefer to take Sis. Alevear's advise a few posts earlier and pray about real issues.
My daughter hit the nail on the head this afternoon when I mentioned about going to visit my mom's church. My daughter said church cramps her style. Considering the past few weeks, we have been having encounters with God in a former bar converted into a state of the art youth center with lights and a fog machine, I think she is correct. She has more Biblical holiness in one pinky than the West Coast Mafia and company has combined.
God help me if I ever go to church again. Church is for people to show how holy they are. Playing church as they sit on one thumb and suck the other and wonder why people are not beating down their doors.
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Originally Posted by timlan2057
Mike, you have to understand this about "Wholehearted."
Yeah, he's holier than anybody on this board but he doesn't mind telling a convenient lie when he needs to.
I caught him redhanded.
He posted on NFCF under the name: "Ole Time Preacher" and of course his posts were nothing but the same harangues and superfluous amens to some other radical posting nonsense.
Then he wrote a "good-bye cruel world" post about how his wife and family preached to him that he should not hang around on a message board with such reprobates so he was leaving for good.
THEN he came back under the name "Wholehearted."
Now, nothing wrong with that.
Just admit that you didn't have the character to stay away.
He categorically denied he was the former "Ole Time Preacher" but any idiot could see through it: "Wholehearted" posted about his daughter singing, (I'm sure she sings well; I'm leaving her out of this - just giving an example) - him being from East Texas etc. etc. and then lo and behold - the IP addresses matched.
But yet, in PMs and on this board he said he never posted on NFCF under another name.
"Wholehearted", I'm going to remind you of this every time you come back with this nonsense.
Now, since you are some super holiness preacher, I'm sure you know that "All liars shall have their part in the lake of fire."
It requires just a "yes" or "no" answer, Wholhearted.
Have you repented of that lie you told?
See Mike, I guess he's so caught up in no smoke at a youth conference, no TV advertising, etc. that he strained at a gnat and swallowed a camel and forgot about lying being a sin.
But I'm sure he's going to come back and repent because he doesn't want to go to hell. ; )
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A religious spirit allows people to tolerate hatred and anger under the guise of passion and holiness. Bill Johnson
Legalism has no pity on people. Legalism makes my opinion your burden, makes opinion your boundary, makes my opinion your obligation-Lucado
Some get spiritual because they see the light. Others because they feel the heat.Ray Wylie Hubbard
Definition of legalism- Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. TV
This is my first post and all I have to say is WOW! I cannot believe the darts that are being thrown at Mark Johnston. I would certainly hate to be sitting in a church under the people that are throwing them. Maybe Bro Wright should have called MJ on the phone and confronted him about his issues instead of using him as an example in some letter. It would be a shame if any of Mark's saints left the church or lost out with God because of this foolishness.
On another note... Where in the Bible does it say that sleeves have to be below the elbow?? This is for Whole-hearted if you are out there.
This is my first post and all I have to say is WOW! I cannot believe the darts that are being thrown at Mark Johnston. I would certainly hate to be sitting in a church under the people that are throwing them. Maybe Bro Wright should have called MJ on the phone and confronted him about his issues instead of using him as an example in some letter. It would be a shame if any of Mark's saints left the church or lost out with God because of this foolishness.
On another note... Where in the Bible does it say that sleeves have to be below the elbow?? This is for Whole-hearted if you are out there.
Think darts are bad here, try some of the black armband conservative apostolic forums.
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Originally Posted by Earl
This is my first post and all I have to say is WOW! I cannot believe the darts that are being thrown at Mark Johnston. I would certainly hate to be sitting in a church under the people that are throwing them. Maybe Bro Wright should have called MJ on the phone and confronted him about his issues instead of using him as an example in some letter. It would be a shame if any of Mark's saints left the church or lost out with God because of this foolishness.
On another note... Where in the Bible does it say that sleeves have to be below the elbow?? This is for Whole-hearted if you are out there.
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A religious spirit allows people to tolerate hatred and anger under the guise of passion and holiness. Bill Johnson
Legalism has no pity on people. Legalism makes my opinion your burden, makes opinion your boundary, makes my opinion your obligation-Lucado
Some get spiritual because they see the light. Others because they feel the heat.Ray Wylie Hubbard
Definition of legalism- Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. TV
This is my first post and all I have to say is WOW! I cannot believe the darts that are being thrown at Mark Johnston. I would certainly hate to be sitting in a church under the people that are throwing them. Maybe Bro Wright should have called MJ on the phone and confronted him about his issues instead of using him as an example in some letter. It would be a shame if any of Mark's saints left the church or lost out with God because of this foolishness.
On another note... Where in the Bible does it say that sleeves have to be below the elbow?? This is for Whole-hearted if you are out there.
Exactly! Great first post. The Bible does not state how long sleeves should be,
it teaches principles not rules. For example, the principle of modesty in dress.
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13 You, my brothers, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the sinful nature; rather, serve one another in love. 14 The entire law is summed up in a single command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.” 15 If you keep on biting and devouring each other, watch out or you will be destroyed by each other. Galatians 5:13-15 (NIV)
Mike, you have to understand this about "Wholehearted."
Yeah, he's holier than anybody on this board but he doesn't mind telling a convenient lie when he needs to.
I caught him redhanded.
He posted on NFCF under the name: "Ole Time Preacher" and of course his posts were nothing but the same harangues and superfluous amens to some other radical posting nonsense.
Then he wrote a "good-bye cruel world" post about how his wife and family preached to him that he should not hang around on a message board with such reprobates so he was leaving for good.
THEN he came back under the name "Wholehearted."
Now, nothing wrong with that.
Just admit that you didn't have the character to stay away.
He categorically denied he was the former "Ole Time Preacher" but any idiot could see through it: "Wholehearted" posted about his daughter singing, (I'm sure she sings well; I'm leaving her out of this - just giving an example) - him being from East Texas etc. etc. and then lo and behold - the IP addresses matched.
But yet, in PMs and on this board he said he never posted on NFCF under another name.
"Wholehearted", I'm going to remind you of this every time you come back with this nonsense.
Now, since you are some super holiness preacher, I'm sure you know that "All liars shall have their part in the lake of fire."
It requires just a "yes" or "no" answer, Wholhearted.
Have you repented of that lie you told?
See Mike, I guess he's so caught up in no smoke at a youth conference, no TV advertising, etc. that he strained at a gnat and swallowed a camel and forgot about lying being a sin.
But I'm sure he's going to come back and repent because he doesn't want to go to hell. ; )
I know, Tim, I"m holding his feet to the fire. However, my bet is that he WON'T come back to address this, because he's a "post and run" kind of guy.
But, we'll see.....
__________________ "Many people view their relationship with God like a "color by number" picture. It's easier to let someone else define the boundaries, tell them which blanks to fill in, and what color to use than it is for them to take a blank canvas and seek inspiration from the Source in order to paint their own masterpiece"