One thing about this letter...it demonstrates a pet peeve of mine. It attempts to thoroughly reveal a problem that nearly everyone is aware of to some degree or another.
But it offers no concrete course of action.
So are you saying he should have proposed excommunicating the UPC pastor he named as an example?
Perhaps have a comission to develop a "blacklist" like Joe McCarthy did in the 1950's trying to ferret out suspected communists?
__________________ "I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
thats funny baron, what would the boy aquila do to this old pastor, bro wright who has a great big church, lol, maybe they would let him run the church after they run off the wise old pastor, lol
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A product of a pentecostal raisin, I am a hard man, just ask my children
This talk of the "relevancy movement" reminds me of a Far Side cartoon. Shows a kid in a store, frustrated by a high shelf with the product he wants, out of reach. Caption: "Inconvenience store". I think someone should start an "irrelevancy movement".
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Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty
Well if the opposite of being relevant is to be irrelevant than maybe he just wants the church to be irrelevant.
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Originally Posted by Timmy
This talk of the "relevancy movement" reminds me of a Far Side cartoon. Shows a kid in a store, frustrated by a high shelf with the product he wants, out of reach. Caption: "Inconvenience store". I think someone should start an "irrelevancy movement".
An avatar like hers has to be a pastor / church with a myspace or facebook page's worst nightmare!
__________________ "I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
ChesterWright the same guy who took the chairs our of church.
Because he thought his people were getting too comfortable...
What did he replace them with? Stools ?
Perhaps he could just place tacks in the chairs to make sure people are uncomforatble and properly "seperated" from the world.
__________________ "I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"