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Old 06-06-2007, 03:22 PM
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I don't believe people should have children if they can't afford them.
And other, more intelligent cultures have determined this as well. The ability to afford children is/was considered by such to be the measure of readiness to MARRY. Or, more succinctly, if you aren't prepared to feed children, you aren't prepared to be married.

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There is no Biblical support nor opposition to birth control.
There is for abortifacent forms of birth control. A simple little line about thou shalt not murder, or something . . .
However, preventing conception does not kill.

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would you mind sharing what you are doing
I am hoping to learn the perspective of other Apostolic people, such as yourself, on the subject. I am hoping that collectively we Apostolics live up to our deep-digging bible study reputation, and can shed some more light from the word on the topic than what I presently know. I don't want to affect the flow of ideas in this thread with my present opinions.

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Usually the ones writing it are men.
Perhaps this is so on AFF, but I've only recently discovered AFF. My observations in literature, media, and other forums are the opposite of yours. I also know at least a dozen women who fiercely oppose abortion and anything that might even come close to abortion.

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So does this Brother think it's a sin for a woman to get her tubes tied ?
If you'll share your perspective and biblical knowledge on my questions, I'll answer this question a little later.
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Old 06-06-2007, 04:01 PM
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So does this Brother think it's a sin for a woman to get her tubes tied ?
which tube left or right?
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Old 06-06-2007, 04:13 PM
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My tubes were tied after Zac was born. My doctor told me I couldn't have any more kids. I probably would have had them tied anyway. Providing for two has been a stretch at times in our lives. Financially, things are easier now, but I still feel fulfilled as a mom with two kids. If people want to have 12, I think that's fine, but I don't think it was for us.
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Old 06-06-2007, 04:15 PM
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My tubes were tied after Zac was born. My doctor told me I couldn't have any more kids. I probably would have had them tied anyway. Providing for two has been a stretch at times in our lives. Financially, things are easier now, but I still feel fulfilled as a mom with two kids. If people want to have 12, I think that's fine, but I don't think it was for us.
Having that many kids can not be for anyone unless you are LDS, Latter Day Saints, Mormons.
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Old 06-06-2007, 04:16 PM
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Having that many kids can not be for anyone unless you are LDS, Latter Day Saints, Mormons.
Actually we have a black family in our church here that has 12 kids, most of whom are grown now. They are Pentecostal people to the core!
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Old 06-06-2007, 04:24 PM
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Having that many kids can not be for anyone unless you are LDS, Latter Day Saints, Mormons.
or catholic or apostolic
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Old 06-06-2007, 04:39 PM
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or catholic or apostolic
I have never known anyone in the Apostolic faith that way but there is always the exception.
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Old 06-06-2007, 10:03 PM
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I have never known anyone in the Apostolic faith that way but there is always the exception.
Our movement has them, but you are correct that they are rare.

Pastor Charles Benninghoff of Bloomington, Indiana, has six children

The Gordon sisters, a singing group of six sisters from Colorado, have two brothers. That means there must be a Brother & Sister Gordon somewhere who had at least eight.

I have met in passing two Apostolic families that had large families. I didn't get a count, but something in the order of seven for one of them, and perhaps eleven for the other. The family with eleven was a Foster home that had adopted some of their Foster kids.

Six families in my church have five children. One family has seven. Five more families have four.
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Old 06-06-2007, 10:46 PM
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Our movement has them, but you are correct that they are rare.

Pastor Charles Benninghoff of Bloomington, Indiana, has six children

The Gordon sisters, a singing group of six sisters from Colorado, have two brothers. That means there must be a Brother & Sister Gordon somewhere who had at least eight.

I have met in passing two Apostolic families that had large families. I didn't get a count, but something in the order of seven for one of them, and perhaps eleven for the other. The family with eleven was a Foster home that had adopted some of their Foster kids.

Six families in my church have five children. One family has seven. Five more families have four.

The church I was raised in the man who is the pastor now if I remember correctly was a sibling of 20 children. One family had 19 children. Two families had 8 children and one had seven children.
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Old 06-06-2007, 10:47 PM
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The church I was raised in the man who is the pastor now if I remember correctly was a sibling of 20 children. One family had 19 children. Two families had 8 children and one had seven children.
Well, that's one way to grow a church!!
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