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06-06-2007, 03:22 PM
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I don't believe people should have children if they can't afford them.
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And other, more intelligent cultures have determined this as well. The ability to afford children is/was considered by such to be the measure of readiness to MARRY. Or, more succinctly, if you aren't prepared to feed children, you aren't prepared to be married.
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There is no Biblical support nor opposition to birth control.
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There is for abortifacent forms of birth control. A simple little line about thou shalt not murder, or something . . .
However, preventing conception does not kill.
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would you mind sharing what you are doing
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I am hoping to learn the perspective of other Apostolic people, such as yourself, on the subject. I am hoping that collectively we Apostolics live up to our deep-digging bible study reputation, and can shed some more light from the word on the topic than what I presently know. I don't want to affect the flow of ideas in this thread with my present opinions.
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Usually the ones writing it are men.
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Perhaps this is so on AFF, but I've only recently discovered AFF. My observations in literature, media, and other forums are the opposite of yours. I also know at least a dozen women who fiercely oppose abortion and anything that might even come close to abortion.
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So does this Brother think it's a sin for a woman to get her tubes tied ?
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If you'll share your perspective and biblical knowledge on my questions, I'll answer this question a little later.
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06-06-2007, 04:01 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2007
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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson
So does this Brother think it's a sin for a woman to get her tubes tied ?
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which tube left or right?
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06-06-2007, 04:13 PM
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Christmas 2009
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Location: Jackson, TN
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My tubes were tied after Zac was born. My doctor told me I couldn't have any more kids. I probably would have had them tied anyway. Providing for two has been a stretch at times in our lives. Financially, things are easier now, but I still feel fulfilled as a mom with two kids. If people want to have 12, I think that's fine, but I don't think it was for us.
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06-06-2007, 04:15 PM
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Strange in a Strange Land...
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Join Date: Apr 2007
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Originally Posted by Sherri
My tubes were tied after Zac was born. My doctor told me I couldn't have any more kids. I probably would have had them tied anyway. Providing for two has been a stretch at times in our lives. Financially, things are easier now, but I still feel fulfilled as a mom with two kids. If people want to have 12, I think that's fine, but I don't think it was for us.
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Having that many kids can not be for anyone unless you are LDS, Latter Day Saints, Mormons.
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06-06-2007, 04:16 PM
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Christmas 2009
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Originally Posted by JTULLOCK
Having that many kids can not be for anyone unless you are LDS, Latter Day Saints, Mormons.
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Actually we have a black family in our church here that has 12 kids, most of whom are grown now. They are Pentecostal people to the core!
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06-06-2007, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by JTULLOCK
Having that many kids can not be for anyone unless you are LDS, Latter Day Saints, Mormons.
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or catholic or apostolic
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06-06-2007, 04:39 PM
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Strange in a Strange Land...
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Originally Posted by Trouvere
or catholic or apostolic
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I have never known anyone in the Apostolic faith that way but there is always the exception.
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06-06-2007, 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by JTULLOCK
I have never known anyone in the Apostolic faith that way but there is always the exception.
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Our movement has them, but you are correct that they are rare.
Pastor Charles Benninghoff of Bloomington, Indiana, has six children
The Gordon sisters, a singing group of six sisters from Colorado, have two brothers. That means there must be a Brother & Sister Gordon somewhere who had at least eight.
I have met in passing two Apostolic families that had large families. I didn't get a count, but something in the order of seven for one of them, and perhaps eleven for the other. The family with eleven was a Foster home that had adopted some of their Foster kids.
Six families in my church have five children. One family has seven. Five more families have four.
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06-06-2007, 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by OP_Carl
Our movement has them, but you are correct that they are rare.
Pastor Charles Benninghoff of Bloomington, Indiana, has six children
The Gordon sisters, a singing group of six sisters from Colorado, have two brothers. That means there must be a Brother & Sister Gordon somewhere who had at least eight.
I have met in passing two Apostolic families that had large families. I didn't get a count, but something in the order of seven for one of them, and perhaps eleven for the other. The family with eleven was a Foster home that had adopted some of their Foster kids.
Six families in my church have five children. One family has seven. Five more families have four.
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The church I was raised in the man who is the pastor now if I remember correctly was a sibling of 20 children. One family had 19 children. Two families had 8 children and one had seven children.
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06-06-2007, 10:47 PM
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Christmas 2009
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Join Date: Feb 2007
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley
The church I was raised in the man who is the pastor now if I remember correctly was a sibling of 20 children. One family had 19 children. Two families had 8 children and one had seven children.
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Well, that's one way to grow a church!!
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