Pros/Cons of the Three-step doctrine - Page 6

deltaguitar · #51 05-22-2009, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by LUKE2447

delta where you on EC?

You mean everyone's connected? Yeah I was a long time ago. I thought it shut down.

gloryseeker · #52 05-22-2009, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by deltaguitar

The other three-step thread seems to have more opinions and fighting back and forth about who is preaching false doctrine and who is lying and going to hell or whatever. These threads always seem to always get down to just arguing anyway.

Can we have a thread that openly list the arguments for and against the three-step doctrine? Almost like a summary of sorts. Before each reply list Pro: or Con: and your comments. Sam is always good at listing all the different beliefs but I would like to see scriptures in support of or against.

Lets try to report the facts and let others decide. Kind of fair and balanced.

I will try to start it off and give some arguments that are pro three step doctrine.

I'm not a three-stepper, but I will give a "pro" IMO to the three-step doctrine. It seems that their converts are more committed then one-steppers

deltaguitar · #53 05-22-2009, 01:49 PM

Honestly, I was hoping to have a more support for the three-step doctrine before we start getting off on tangents. I would like to summarize the support of the doctrine from a scripture viewpoint so that we can see where the common ground is.

deltaguitar · #54 05-22-2009, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by gloryseeker

I'm not a three-stepper, but I will give a "pro" IMO to the three-step doctrine. It seems that their converts are more committed then one-steppers

It might seem that way. I don't know if this is true or not. We have mormons, JW, Catholics, and Baptist that are just as committed.

Thanks for the input.

staysharp · #55 05-22-2009, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by KWSS1976

So staysharp you are saying everytime you sin you need to get rebaptied? Cause you state that is what washes your sins away..

no, one cannot be born again twice. after we are born again, God deals with us through the washing and regenerating of the word. we are his sons and those he loves he will correct.

LUKE2447 · #56 05-22-2009, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by deltaguitar

You mean everyone's connected? Yeah I was a long time ago. I thought it shut down.

Did you know SlickRick?

deltaguitar · #57 05-22-2009, 02:02 PM

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Did you know SlickRick?

Nope, the only people I knew on their was personal friends. I didn't spend much time there.

gloryseeker · #58 05-22-2009, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by deltaguitar

It might seem that way. I don't know if this is true or not. We have mormons, JW, Catholics, and Baptist that are just as committed.

Thanks for the input.

1. I wouldn't classify the Baptist with the others. Baptists do believe in Jesus and His resurrection, they've just not accepted some of the other teachings of the Bible. However, in context to my opinion, they are very strong on repentance and baptism, so while they only may be a two-stepper you are right they are very committed.

2. The Mormons and JW are a whole different bowl of beans. They employ cultic practices of brain washing, will turn against you if you leave the religion, and are very works oriented. So although they are committed it is not the same as a true Christians commitment because they want Jesus as their Lord.

3. Catholics have a very small percentage of committed followers. While there a numerous Catholics and who proclaim Catholicism most do not attend Mass regularly, give to the church, or offer any real support of their belief. They only identify themselves as such.

deltaguitar · #59 05-22-2009, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by gloryseeker

1. I wouldn't classify the Baptist with the others. Baptists do believe in Jesus and His resurrection, they've just not accepted some of the other teachings of the Bible. However, in context to my opinion, they are very strong on repentance and baptism, so while they only may be a two-stepper you are right they are very committed.

2. The Mormons and JW are a whole different bowl of beans. They employ cultic practices of brain washing, will turn against you if you leave the religion, and are very works oriented. So although they are committed it is not the same as a true Christians commitment because they want Jesus as their Lord.

3. Catholics have a very small percentage of committed followers. While there a numerous Catholics and who proclaim Catholicism most do not attend Mass regularly, give to the church, or offer any real support of their belief. They only identify themselves as such.

True.

KWSS1976 · #60 05-22-2009, 02:12 PM

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2. The Mormons and JW are a whole different bowl of beans. They employ cultic practices of brain washing, will turn against you if you leave the religion, and are very works oriented. So although they are committed it is not the same as a true Christians commitment because they want Jesus as their Lord

Sounds like another group I know which would be a type of three stepper

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYhIB...eature=related