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Re: Gospels of Matthew without Trinitarian ending
In fragments of Irenaeus of Lyons it is written “It was not for nothing that Naaman of old, when suffering from leprosy, was purified upon his being baptized, but [it served] as an indication to us. For as we are lepers in sin, we are made clean, by means of the sacred water and the invocation of the Lord”
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Re: Gospels of Matthew without Trinitarian ending
Irenaeus, Demonstrations 97 in J. Armitage
“By the invocation of the name of Jesus Christ...and wheresover any of those who believe on him shall invoke and call upon him and do his will. He is near and present, fulfilling the request of those who with pure hearts call upon Him. whereby receiving salvation”
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01-18-2019, 09:58 PM
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Re: Gospels of Matthew without Trinitarian ending
The Martyrdom of the Holy and Glorious Apostle Bartholomew has the following passage; “and having baptized all of you who are in it in the baptism of the Lord, and sanctified you, I will save all.”
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Re: Gospels of Matthew without Trinitarian ending
The fictitious Gnostic Gospel of Judas carbon dated to 280 AD has the phrase “my name” 7 times and it says: “Judas said to Jesus, “Look, what will those who have been baptized in your name do? Jesus said, “Truly I say [to you], this baptism [3 words missing] my name”
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01-18-2019, 09:58 PM
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Re: Gospels of Matthew without Trinitarian ending
The fictitious Acts of Peter has Peter baptizing a man named Theon in the triune phrase, this baptismal account sounds fishy for it is well known that Peter baptized in the name of Jesus, but what makes it clear it is fake is that in the prior passage Theon asks to be “baptize with the seal of the Lord” and in the next passages the baptism is claimed to have been done in the name of Jesu Christ. “God had accounted Theon worthy of his name…it is thou that hast appeared unto us, O God Jesu Christ, and in thy name hath this man now been washed and sealed with thy holy seal.”
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01-18-2019, 09:59 PM
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Re: Gospels of Matthew without Trinitarian ending
The fictitious works called The Acts of John (XXI) has the following text “and he ordained them a fast of a week, and when it was fulfilled he baptized them in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ”
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01-19-2019, 12:33 AM
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Re: Gospels of Matthew without Trinitarian ending
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The fictitious works called The Acts of John (XXI) has the following text “and he ordained them a fast of a week, and when it was fulfilled he baptized them in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ”
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Incomplete doctored quotes like this make you look foolish and totally untrustworthy in scholarship.
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The Apocryphal New Testament
Montague Rhode James (1862-1936)
https://archive.org/details/JAMESApo...1924/page/n289
Acts of John
... and he ordained them a fast of a week, and when it was fulfilled he baptized them in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and his Almighty Father, and the Holy Ghost the illuminator.
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This could be added to my list of Ante-Nicene references, although as a gnostic quirky work it is marginal. While Matthew is not mentioned, they likely misunderstood Matthew 28:19, as is commonly done today.
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01-19-2019, 12:55 AM
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Re: Gospels of Matthew without Trinitarian ending
We now have two more superb references from before Eusebius showing the words from Matthew.
Note that they may well have been misinterpreting Matthew 28:19.
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Apocryphal Acts of the Apostles: The English translations
edited by William Wright
https://books.google.com/books?id=iUQYAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA258
Acts of Thomas
And Judas went up (and) stood over it, and baptized Mygdonia in the name of the Father and the Son and the Spirit of holiness.
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The Apocrypal New Testament
By Montague Rhode James
https://books.google.com/books?id=toJaDwAAQBAJ&pg=PA308
Acts of Peter
Now when there was a calm upon the ship in Hadria (the Adriatic), Theon showed it to Peter, saying unto him: If thou wilt account me worthy, whom thou mayest baptize with the seal of the Lord, thou hast an opportunity. For all that were in the ship had fallen asleep, being drunken. And Peter went down by a rope and baptized Theon in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Ghost: and he came up out of the water rejoicing with great joy, and Peter also was glad because God had accounted Theon worthy of his name. And it came to pass when Theon was baptized, there appeared in the same place\ a youth shining and beautiful, saying unto them: Peace be unto you. And immediately Peter and Theon went up and entered into the cabin; and Peter took bread and gave thanks unto the Lord which had accounted him worthy of his holy ministry, and for that the youth had appeared unto them, saying: Peace be unto you. And he said: Thou best and alone holy one, it is thou that hast appeared unto us, O God Jesu Christ, and in thy name hath this man now been washed and sealed with thy holy seal. Therefore in thy name do I impart unto him thine eucharist, that he may be thy perfect servant without blame for ever.
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01-19-2019, 07:24 AM
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Re: Gospels of Matthew without Trinitarian ending
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The Golden Legend: The Life of Saint Calixtus has the following word: “Baptize me in the name of Jesu Christ, which hath taken me by the hand and lifted me up. Then came Calixtus and baptized her and her husband”.
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Without any mention of Matthew.
Another section has.
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And anon, as they had so done, the angels took her up, and Christ descended, and baptized her in the sea, saying: I baptize thee in the name of God my father, and in me Jesu Christ his son, and in the Holy Ghost, and committed her to Michael the archangel, which led her to the land.
https://books.google.com/books?id=H-sOAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA95
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01-19-2019, 01:41 PM
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Re: Gospels of Matthew without Trinitarian ending
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In fragments of Irenaeus of Lyons it is written “It was not for nothing that Naaman of old, when suffering from leprosy, was purified upon his being baptized, but [it served] as an indication to us. For as we are lepers in sin, we are made clean, by means of the sacred water and the invocation of the Lord”
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlamingZword
Irenaeus, Demonstrations 97 in J. Armitage
“By the invocation of the name of Jesus Christ...and wheresover any of those who believe on him shall invoke and call upon him and do his will. He is near and present, fulfilling the request of those who with pure hearts call upon Him. whereby receiving salvation”
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All of which fits perfectly with Irenaeus quoting from Matthew 28:19:
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IRENAEUS [a.d. 120-202.],
Irenaeus Against Heresies Book III
https://books.google.com/books?id=J8U7AAAAcAAJ&pg=PA334
Chapter XVII.-The Apostles Teach that It Was Neither Christ Nor the Saviour,
But the Holy Spirit, Who Did Descend Upon Jesus. The Reason for This Descent.
That is the Spirit of whom the Lord declares,
"For it is not ye that speak,
but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you.
And again, giving to the disciples the power of regeneration into God,
He said to them,
Go and teach all nations,
baptizing them in the name of the Father,
and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost."
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