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Old 05-09-2007, 05:45 PM
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In the OT. do we have anyone in the Bible anyone seeking for The Holy Ghost ?
Yes Elizabeth and John The Baptist were filled with the Holy Ghost but it was a soverign Act of God ,for empowerment.
And BTW why aren't Babies filled with The Holy Ghost from their mother's womb in this grace age ?
Not everyone in the Bible that received the Holy Ghost was seeking for it, necessarily. Some received it when Paul laid his hand on them.

As for babies, John the Baptist is the only recorded baby born with the Holy Ghost. We have scripture for that. Why he was picked, I don't know, but scripture is clear that he was filled with the Holy Ghost from the womb.
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Old 05-09-2007, 05:46 PM
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But some also prophesied. I didn't. I know others who didn't.

I have to wonder how speaking in tongues is a sign of the Holy Ghost when the devil can speak in tongues also. I've seen people do that and it definitely wasn't the Holy Ghost!
The devil can imitate the things of God but was your presonal experience receiving The Baptism of The Holy Ghost ?
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Old 05-09-2007, 05:50 PM
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There aren't two Holy Ghosts. There is only one. Elisabeth, Zachariah, and their baby boy all were filled with the HG while momma was preggers. This was written by the same person who recorded people being filled with the HG in the Upper Room 30+ years later.

Luke didn't apparently realize there was a difference.
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Old 05-09-2007, 05:53 PM
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And I will pray the Father ,and he shall give you another Comforter ,that he might abide with you forever.John 14:18
Jesus tells his followers that He will pray to His father that will be given another comforter,Jesus comforted His disciples by presence with them ,but they are going to receive another comforter who is that Comforter ,The Holy Ghost of course,that he might abide with them future tense not presently abiding in them.When did that Comforter come ?
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The devil can imitate the things of God but was your presonal experience receiving The Baptism of The Holy Ghost ?
I will have to be honest and confess to you that I have no idea when my first experience was in speaking in tongues because I was taught that one had to do that in order to have the HG. I faked it a lot as a child and even as a teen. I wasn't considered saved unless people heard me speak it.

However, as an adult, I have spoken in tongues many times, mainly during intercessory prayer. But it doesn't edify me. Only my spirit knows, and it speaks to God.
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And I will pray the Father ,and he shall give you another Comforter ,that he might abide with you forever.John 14:18
Jesus tells his followers that He will pray to His father that will be given another comforter,Jesus comforted His disciples by presence with them ,but they are going to receive another comforter who is that Comforter ,The Holy Ghost of course,that he might abide with them future tense not presently abiding in them.When did that Comforter come ?
Jesus was speaking to people who didn't have the HG, that's why.

There are only three people in the NT recorded to have the HG before the DOP...none of them were present in that multitude Jesus spoke to that day.
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Alright Jesus says this to his disciples ,
Even the Spirit Of Truth whom the world cannot receive ,because it seeth him not ,neither knoweth him :for he dwell with you but shall be in You JOHN 14:17,
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I will not leave you comfortless or orphanless : I will come to you JOHN 14:18
Notice told Jesus His disciples I will come to you.
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There aren't two Holy Ghosts. There is only one. Elisabeth, Zachariah, and their baby boy all were filled with the HG while momma was preggers. This was written by the same person who recorded people being filled with the HG in the Upper Room 30+ years later.

Luke didn't apparently realize there was a difference.
Yes they had it ,but did they have in Pentecostal fashion as in the book of ACTS ?
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And again Jesus said this.
And behold I send the promise of my Father upon you , but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem ,until you be endued or clothed with power from on High .LUKE 24:49
But my former pastor told me the disciples had the Holy Ghost in John chapter 20.
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Jesus was speaking to people who didn't have the HG, that's why.

There are only three people in the NT recorded to have the HG before the DOP...none of them were present in that multitude Jesus spoke to that day.
Yes and why would men who could cast out devils and heal the sick need to wait in the upper room ?
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