Regarding your former post, I know you posted it and did not make that claim, but only asked what we thought.
I make the claim that God does forgive simply because the bible said he does. Period.
To talk about WHY He must forgive is another question. But the question as to whether that statement you presented is right or wrong, I claim it is wrong simply because the bible says God forgives. It has nothing to do with whether or not He condemns us. So, condemning us may not even be the factor behind the reason God forgives.
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What I'm getting from you loud and clear is that God forgives, right.
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Not from me. From the bible. The Bible says God forgives. Do you agree with the bible?
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Then based on that statement, God has condemned us for an offense against God. Is that a safe assumption of what you believe to be true mfblume?
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So the question is "WHY does God forgive?" Is it because WE are condemned, or is there another reason He must forgive us? Is this what you are are really asking?
Do you agree God forgives? I ask this because we just have to lay these things out first, since no manner of reasoning can remove the fact that the bible says God forgives. It only makes me wonder if you believe the bible is correct, because if you do not, then your agenda is to prove the bible incorrect. We do not share the same foundation of faith to even discuss this if you believe the bible is incorrect. Just wondering.