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Originally Posted by *AQuietPlace*
Seriously? Wow!
She's certainly not hopeless. And I don't think it's up to us to judge whether or not God spoke to her, since she's not telling us what God wants US to do.
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Thanks AQP, It's nice to be defended
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Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind
Michlow, I am sorry if I get frustrated with you. I only wish you the best. I don't think your experience with God is useless. I just don't believe your experience with God can be contrary to the bible. My frustration is with your lack of belief in the bible. Please think about this. If the bible isn't true, then God would have to reveal himself to everyone personally. How is humanity to be saved without the scriptures? What other vehicle is there? I know you disagree with things like killings in the OT, but what is there in the NT that you find objectionable? please respond to all of my points.
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DO believe that God reveals himself to everyone personally. It's called the drawing of the Spirit. Doesn't your bible say that no one can come near to God unless the spirit draws him? The same bible says that Jesus would not leave us comfortless, but would send the Spirit, to lead and guide us into all truth.
My objection is not that the Bible exists. My objection is that the Bible itself becomes an object of worship and reverence. Like the pharisees that didn't recognize Jesus because he didn't fit into their Law. Many Christians can't accept that anything is of God that doesn't fit into their "instruction manual".
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Originally Posted by Brad Murphy
Actually, the bolded is what I expect. Not a compilation of copies of copies of copies of letters translated from language to language, decided by the Council of Nicea... a group of men who didn't even have the Holy Ghost by all accounts (which seems to be the standard for being able to make these types of decisions).
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Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind
there is a thread about the canon in the fellowship hall. I don't want to relitigate the canon in this thread, but like I asked Michlow, what exactly in the NT do you find objectionable?
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Paul? Sexism. A lot of it's Cultural, it was a completely different world, with different challenges. I think a lot of it just doesn't translate. Which is not to say that there is nothing to learn from it. There is a lot of wisdom in it. But I don't think we should pattern our lives after the lives of people that lived 2000 years ago. Besides which....if you have a book that tells you exactly how to live you life...what do you need God, or the Spirit for?